Christianity 101: Jesus confirmed that He had two agendas:

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. . . to be converted and healed by Jesus:

. . . to be converted and healed by Jesus:

contd from post 100

And of course the above is all related to being converted and then being healed by Jesus:

Matthew: 18 KJV N.T.
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven

Matthews: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

One must become converted, i.e. one must be transformed from being the dead to being spiritually aware (i.e. one must cease having a heart or spirit that is waxed gross). Then one can search one's own heart or spirit to discern the Spirit. 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus within one's own heart or spirit.

Then when one is led into all of one's works by precisely what this Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do, one is saved/healed by Jesus.

The Spirit of Jesus is a perfect amalgam of the Spirit of Truth, the Spirit of Intercession and the Spirit of Love. The Spirit of Jesus is unique for each person.

The Spirit of Jesus is a perfect amalgam of 1. the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which one loves in one's own heart or spirit and 2. the current and present will of God. The will of God is the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is God's love for the ideas of His creation.

. . . so, it is all all about the love in one's own heart/spirit. In fact:

The Spirit of Jesus are those urging of love which arises and are sustained, naturally and spontaneously, within one's own heart or spirit, for those specific people, things and circumstances in God's creation. This is a perfect amalgam of your most authentic ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations and God's precise and individual will for you, in His material creation.

The Spirit of Jesus is unique information and guidance for each person. It is not generalized guidance like the ten commandments. This is why each person is required to search his or her one heart or spirit to get this information and guidance.

One has God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments so as to unconditionally obey the above urging of love.

That is, one has God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments (and other such ideals and laws) so as to form relations and associations with those specific people, things and circumstances in God's creation.

The above is how one becomes a child of God and a Christian and inherits God's kingdom of heaven on the surface of earth and also in the spirit realm. This is how one is saved and delivered. By expressing and fulfilling one's heart/spirit desires in the above manner one achieves heaven on earth and peace/heaven in the spirit realm (before and after earthly/physical death). This is how one does the will of the living God, in real time, all the time, whiles serving one's own authentic will in perfect harmony.

This is the passage. This is the straight gate and narrow way that leadeth onto to life, eternal:

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

 
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The Spirit of Jesus passes knowledge, live and direct to one, through one's own heart

The Spirit of Jesus passes knowledge, live and direct to one, through one's own heart

The Spirit of Jesus is, literally, unique information and guidance for each person. It is not generalized guidance like the ten commandments. This is why each person is required to search his or her own heart or spirit to get this information and guidance.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

1 Corinthians: 2 KJV N.T.
14 But the natural man (i.e. the spiritually dead person) receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned (i.e. discerned only by spiritually aware (converted) people).


Note that the following is a total corruption (Satanic rendition) of the above KJV N.T. revelation:

Ephesians: 3 New International Version
19 and to know this love that surpasses knowledge--that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.

Clearly the writers of the New International Version have not experienced and are therefore, not aware of the fact that: by loving Jesus within one own heart or spirit, the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth passes knowledge and guidance to one, through one's own heart or spirit. This is why one is instructed to search one's heart/spirit. This is also why one is told that the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus brings All Truth.

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.


The writers of the New International Version are not in communion with the Spirit of Jesus. Their ears are hard of hearing, their eyes they have closed and their hearts are waxed gross. They are not converted. They are 'the dead'. And they are burying those who use their New International Version.

This corruption serve to keep a high quantum of 'the dead' (not converted people) on the surface of earth. 'The dead' are in servitude to the 'elite ruling spiritual dead'. However this is the dead burying their dead.

The end of this era is at hand.
 
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Now intellectual/lettered education, certification and experience will not cut it. This is left brain/physical functionality. (i.e. people on the left side of Jesus.)

Intuitive knowing (or gift of the Spirit) is required. This is right brain/intuitive/spiritual functionality. (i.e. people on the right side of Jesus)

There will be great depression among intellectual/lettered educated and intellectual/lettered certified people who would find that their education and lettered efforts and experiences cannot earn them recognition and a living in the New Age.

They simply would not know what is going on around them. Their skills and experiences will not work for them anymore. They and their systems will be over-thrown. This has already started. The Old is dying to give way to the New.

This simply the reality.

However, on the other hand, intellectually actualized people, from among the spiritually aware/spiritually actualized (converted) people, will know everything. They will know what to do and they can do what has to be done to keep peace and management on earth.

Increasing Grace of God/Consciousness on the surface will make many unprepared/not spiritually actualized people, mad and destructive (both to themselves and others), regardless of their past status on earth. These people all have O.T. mentalities. They are spiritually dead. They delight in ideals and laws (of duality). And all have different version of what is right and wrong.

They are motivated by their ideologies beliefs and erroneous conclusions. Currently they are fighting and/or killing each other. This will only get worse.

The 'unruly' are driven by their own ideas of right and wrong and 'the police' are drive they their ideas of right and wrong. For now, this seems to be the division. As grace/consciousness increases on the surface of earth, this division is not likely to remain so. The unruly as well as the police will become fragmented. And they will fight among themselves.

The division will be, according to more deeply seated ideological. However this will be only among those who are not in communion with truth and Truth.

Unprepared/not spiritually actualized people are all physically anchored/oriented. They may or may not be intellectually/lettered people. They are simply O.T. people. They are simply locked in duality. They are anchored only on five physical senses detection and are led only this.

The surface of earth now belongs to intuits. Intuits by-pass five physical senses detecting/discernment, so as to have intuitive/spirit discernment/detection.

We are witnessing the dying away of the O.T. ideologies and approach to life, to give way to the N.T. ideologies and approach to life.

This respects no occupation, station or status. In the fullness of time (that is now unfolding), this will infiltrate 'police' as well as 'thieves', the rich as well as the poor, leader as well as their armies/peace keeping forces, etc . . . and divide them along the above lines.

Matthews: 10 KJV N.T.
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.


The relevant school, at this time is not traditional educational institution which tend to intellectual/lettered/physical development. The relevant schools, at this time, are informed techniques of meditation (and such schools) which tends to conversion and opening one's awareness to truth and Truth through communion with the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus, through one's own heart or spirit.

The current times require right brain actualization and not left brain actualization.


Matthew: 18 KJV N.T.
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven

Matthews: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.


Do not be preoccupied with end of time prophesies. Whether or not you understand these prophesies, they will occur.

Do not be preoccupied with defending your traditional beliefs and your priests, popes, etc..

Do not be consumed by current evangelist, priests, popes, pastors, etc. Beware of priests, evangelists, popes, priests etc with thousands of followers. They cannot be the few who have truth, do not err and are the chosen few.

Instead stand alone and apart, with only the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession/Spirit of Love. Indeed, be totally consumed with being converted and being healed by Jesus.

Indeed, seek ye first the kingdom of God within your own heart or spirit and all things will be added.

Other wise you will be among:


Luke: 13 King James Version (KJV)
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

 
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Is this profiling?

1 Thessalonians 2 KJV N.T.
14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.
 
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Were the Jews of Old, false spying brethren, who came among Christians?

Were the Jews of Old, false spying brethren, who came among Christians?

Is this profiling?

1 Thessalonians 2 KJV N.T.
14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.

Are the Jews of old the false spying brethren mentioned in:

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage (under the ten commandments)

Galatians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
 

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Matthews: 25 KJV N.T.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:


Meditation/spiritual/right brain actualization is directly linked to being, 'on his right hand'.

Intellectual/physical/left brain certification is directly linked to being, 'on the left hand

For peace on earth, there is only one school to which the population on earth must be sent:

Send your citizens to a school of meditation/spiritual/right brain actualization. This is a school in which one is converted, from being the dead to being spiritually aware. This is a school in which one's spirit is saved.

Cease sending your citizens to a school of intellectual/physical/left brain certification. There is a critical need for New spirit and Spirit based churches in the U.S.A. These must be totally conformed to Paul's commission and not at all conformed to Peter's commission. The very very great majority of churches in the U.S.A. are O.T. These are simply masquerading as N.T./Christian churches. These churches are now totally irrelevant.

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.


 
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Peter's church is Jesus' Satanic church. (absolutely no malice intended)

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.


Jesus anchored a church under Peter/Satan. This is Jesus' Satanic church where 'the (spiritually) dead' are sent so that their spirits might be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

This church was established so the 'the dead' can be converted to spiritual awareness. To be converted is a precise KJV N.T. term.

To be converted describes the transformation of persons whose ears are dull of hearing, their eyes are shut and hearts are waxed gross to being one whose ears are full of hearing, their eyes are no longer shut and their hearts are not longer waxed gross. This is the saving of one's heart or spirit. This is to bring one into awareness of their own spirit and so actualize their spirit faculties. This is the mission that was given to Peter in his church.

1 Corinthians: 5 KJV N.T.
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.


The question is did Peter & Co. stay within the terms of their appointment. Did they save the spirits of their charges or were they, the dead who buried their dead?

One is asked to walk with ears full of hearing, eyes wide open and hearts that are not waxed gross because Jesus did prophesied:

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many
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Did Peter & Co. help their charges to be converted or did Peter & Co. deny their charges this conversion and so spiritually burred their charges?

The act of being converted is the act of saving one's spirit. This is achieved by the dead when they become spiritually aware.

This is achieved through meditation. Through spiritual/right brain actualization. Through seeking ye first the kingdom of heaven within:

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.


The above is about seeking ye first the kingdom of God within one's own heart or spirit. This is about silent and devoted meditation.

One's spirit is saved through the above technique (i.e. meditation). This is to be saved. Then one can come onto Christ by searching one's (no longer waxed gross) heart/spirit to discern and be actively led by the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession/Spirit of Love, as discerned within one's own heart/spirit. This latter accomplishment is to be delivered into God's kingdom of heaven:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.


The question did the church of Peter & Co. guide their followers to seek ye first the kingdom of heaven within? Or did Peter & Co. chooses instead to play Jesus and/or God.

Matthew: 18 KJV N.T.
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven

Matthews: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

 
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Fact is Peter & Co. did not and do not believe in things 'not seen'. They continue to esteem, only, the things of man and not the things of God.

They continue to look, only, to things that are 'seen' and temporal. These are the things of man.

They never looked to things that are 'not seen' and eternal. These are the things of God.

John: 4 King James Version (KJV)
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

1 John: 4 King James Version (KJV)
8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

2 Corinthians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.


2000 odd years ago the world started it assent into spirit and Peter & Co missed the call. Now the Spirit Age is fully formed on the surface of earth. All opportunities for the dead to be converted to spiritual awareness has passed.

Peter & Co. and their charges will only now awaken to things that are 'not seen' and the power of things that are 'not seen', however . . . to late will be their cry.

The sad fact is that Peter & Co. banked all their treasures on earth and none in heaven. (Only those who can and do look to things that are 'not seen' and eternal can have and bank treasures in heaven.)

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.


Notice that Peter who savorest the things of man and not the thing of God was appointed to his church by the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man, Jesus (the earthly Jesus who is not lord) and not the Spirit 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus (the Spirit/heaven Jesus who is Lord).

However, on the other hand, Paul who savorest the thing of God and not the things of man was appointed to his church by the Spirit 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus (the Spirit/heaven Jesus who is Lord) and not by the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man, Jesus (the earthly Jesus who is not lord).

Wake up and get Jesus' message in:

Matthew: 16 KJV N.T.
23 But he turned, and said onto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan, thou art an offence onto me: for thou sauourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
 

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The sad folly of traditional Christians is that they seek intellectual/lettered/physical certification. They do not seek intuitive/spirit actualization.

1. The former is the letter which killeth (which killeth spiritual actualization). This is about physically reading and physically hearing and physically interpreting the scriptures etc. This is the ways of children of the flesh . . . also called the dead and Satan and one whose heart is waxed gross.

This is to savorest the things of man. This is about being 'the dead' (i.e. dead to one's own heart or spirit). This is about having a heart that is waxed gross. This is about not being given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. This is about 'the dead burying their dead', generally.

This is about not being able to search one's own heart/spirit to get All Truth from the Spirit of Truth who brings All Truth.

2. The latter (right brain actualization) is about the spirit and Spirit which giveth life. This is anchored on having a heart that is not waxed gross. This is the way of children of God/Christians.

This is to savorest the things of God. This is about searching one's own heart or spirit to know what the Spirit of Jesus has on mind for one to know, pray for, say and do, in real time, all the time. This is anchored on being converted (i.e. being converted from being the dead to being spiritually aware).

This is literally the act of becoming intuitively/spiritually actualized. Being intuitively/spiritually actualized is about being given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. This is about rising to spirit heaven, in three days after one's death to be like angels in heaven. This is about accepting the KJV N.T as is and seeking to get to that point where one grasp that the KJV N.T. is a perfect works in its literal presentation (without using interpretations)

:idea: The former is right brain actualization. The latter is left brain actualization.

Right brain actualization is about meditation. Left brain certification is about going to traditional educational institutions or a traditional church.

Most traditional Christians are only left brain actualized. They are half a person. They are not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. They are not converted. They esteem, use, promote and invoke parables.

Matthew: 18 KJV N.T.
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven

Matthews: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

 
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To be converted is to be transformed from being 'the dead' to being spiritually aware. This is to awaken to one's own spirit/heart. This is described as having a second birth or spirit birth.

As one who was previously 'the dead', a newly spiritually aware person would have had a life based on physical ideas/beliefs, physical needs, physical desires, physical interests and physical aspirations as regulated by the ten commandments and other similar generalized laws. One would have been under the ten commandments until one become spiritually aware and in Christ:

Galatians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith (spiritual awareness) is come, we are no longer under (the ten commandments) a schoolmaster.


Fact is under the ten commandments, one could bring forth only fruits onto death (which include children of the flesh). One who is under the ten commandments, cannot bring forth fruits onto God (which include children of God).

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.


A newly converted person must drop (walk away from) his/her old spouse and all things of his/her old life including the ten commandments and other such laws so as to start immediately to serve in the newness of spirit/love.

Under one's old marriage as a 'dead mam', even though one esteemed and obeyed the ten commandments all one's children were of the flesh, i.e. children of the flesh, like Ishmael. Now that one is spiritually aware, that can and must change. One must become a new person in Christ.

To become a New person in Christ, a newly spiritually aware person is required to totally walk away from one old life, i.e. including, walking away from one's old spouse and the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit. This is how one can stop bringing forth children of the flesh and start bringing forth only children of God, like Isaac:


Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not s in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Ithe law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.


Only a converted person has the necessary actualization to be 'in Christ' (to be Christian). To be a New person in Christ a converted person must transgress the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit.
 
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Jesus has returned to fully establish a pure spirit and Spirit Christian Age on earth

Jesus has returned to fully establish a pure spirit and Spirit Christian Age on earth

Many people the world over, believe that Jesus will return to reestablish/reaffirm the Old Testament on earth. This is not so.

Jesus has returned to fully establish a pure spirit and Spirit Christian Age on earth. This is an Age of the pure New Testament with absolutely no regard for or recognition of, the Old Testament. He has returned as the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus who is also, the Spirit of Truth, Spirit of Intercession and the Spirit of Love in a perfect amalgam.

Those who cannot cut it (not prepared) are totally out of here. Those who have not converted and become 'in Christ' would not have the required spiritual actualization and spiritual communion with Jesus, to live on the surface of earth:

Colossians: 1 KJV N.T.
26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

Matthews: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.


The New Age is anchored on the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven which were made available, only 2000 odd years ago, to only Jesus' disciples, in very private session among only them. Therefore the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven is not in the O.T. and not every where in the N.T.

The New Age on earth will see the total removal of the O.T. and O.T. ideologies and O.T. laws and all O.T. (law oriented) people from the surface of earth, so as to give way to the N.T. and N.T. ideologies and N.T. people and a N.T. Age on the surface of earth.

To be a New Testament person one must be converted and then be 'in Christ' (healed by Jesus).

This require one to transgress the ten commandments and all other similar laws so as to serve in the newness of spirit. This is how one can stop bringing forth fruits onto death (which includes children of the flesh, like Ishmael) and start bringing forth only fruits onto God (which includes children of God, like Isaac).

Billions will be taken by surprise, both inside, traditional Christianity (who are actually O.T. people) and out side of traditional Christianity (i.e. in other O.T. traditions):


Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Luke: 13 King James Version (KJV)
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.


Judgment is according to:

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.


Dispatching according to judgment is as follows:

Matthew: 25 King James Version (KJV)
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand (those who sowest according to spirit and Spirit), Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand (those who sowest according to flesh and laws like the ten commandments), Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:


These are the last days to come onto truth as literally confirmed in the KJV N.T.. Then to become converted. And then to access All Truth through individual, personal, direct, intuitive communion with the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus, through one's own (no longer waxed gross) heart/spirit.

If you are seeking to be Christian only the KJV N.T. is your book. No one else book and no other book, is yours.

Do not let those who are doing hate crimes and hate motivated acts, misguide you. God is totally about Love. This is the Christian information:

1 John: 4 King James Version (KJV)
8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.


The Spirit of God is Love, never hate. If you are led to do anything by hate, know for sure that the negative one (one opposite to God) is leading you.

. . . last call, my friends.

 
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Gurucam

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To be converted is the first fruit of the Holy Spirit. Then one groans for adoption.

To be converted is the first fruit of the Holy Spirit. Then one groans for adoption.

To be converted is the first fruit of the Holy Spirit. Then one groans for adoption as a child of God. This is confirmed in:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit (i.e. the conversion), even we ourselves groan within ourselves (i.e. groan within our no longer waxed gross hearts/spirits), waiting for the adoption (as a child of God), to wit, the redemption of our body.


One must first be converted before one can become an adopted child of God. To be converted means to no longer have a heart/spirit that is waxed gross (closed).

One who does the will of God is a child of God. This is confirmed in:

Matthews: 7 KJV N.T.
21 Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord!' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of My Father in heaven.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.


Parroting slogans will not do it. Humans can do the will of God, only by actually doing the will of the living Jesus. This is confirmed in:

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


However God is a Spirit. This is confirmed in:

John: 4 King James Version (KJV)
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.


Therefore this is totally spiritual. This is a life style in which one is led (into all of one's physical activities) by the Spirit of Jesus. What the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do is discerned within one's own spirit. This is a perfect amalgam of 1. the things which one loves in one's own heart/spirit and 2. the things which God loves for His creation (which is the Spirit of God/the Holy Spirit). This is confirmed in:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.


He that searches his heart or spirit (in real time, all the time) come to know precisely what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do, in the present moment. This is confirmed in:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

The above is how, by being led by the Spirit of Jesus, one does the will of God who is the Holy Spirit and simultaneously serve the acceptable (i.e. the love motivated) things of one's own heart/spirit in perfect harmony.

Humans can comes onto God only by going through Jesus. However this operates only spiritually.

God is a Spirit, the Holy Spirit. Therefore one must go through (be led by) the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus, to come onto to (to be led by) the Holy Spirit.

One must be converted then Jesus can heal one:

Being converted is the first step. This is to become awaken to or aware of, one's own heart/spirit. This enables one to search one's own hearts/spirit to discern the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus within one's own heart/spirit.

One becomes an adopted child of God by being led into all of one's works by precisely what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession/Spirit of Love has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do, as discerned within one's own heart, even if one has to transgress the ten commandments:


Matthew: 18 KJV N.T.
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Matthews: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
 
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There are three ways that are expressed on earth. They are:

1. The ways of the dead'. These people are available for management/rule under generalized fixed ideals and laws (like the ten commandments and a one world government and/or one world religion)

2. The ways of the converted. These are the spiritually aware but not yet adopted as children of God. These people can be led by either hate or love. Both hate and love arise and are sustained within our hearts/spirits. These people cannot be managed and ruled under generalized fixed ideals and laws (like the ten commandments and a one world government and/or one world religion). However the majority of this kind of people will be driven by their heart/spirit to do hateful things. They cannot be managed by the old guard and old approaches.

3. They ways of the converted who have also been healed by Jesus. These are spiritually aware people who are 'in Christ'. These people are led by only love. These people need no physical leaders or rulers. They guide perfectly by the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus. These are the Christian. They are the chosen few from among the billions who seek God through the ideas in the O.T. and N.T.

Through predictable and cyclical realignment of the heavenly bodies, the surface of earth has transformed to more grace/consciousness. This has brough a New Age to the surface of earth . . . a Spiritual Age.

When the world transforms to a spiritual Age, masses of the dead become converted (i.e. spiritually aware). Tons of # 1 people become # 2 people. This means that tons of people who were previously not led by their hearts/spirits suddenly becomes led by their hearts/spirit. However these people's heart/spirits can be both hateful and loving. These are newly spiritually aware people.

Currently those newly spiritually aware people with vengeful and hateful heart/spirit are running havoc on earth. They are driven by their heart/spirit. This means that they are far more powerfully committed and far more powerfully driven than 'the dead'. The current leaders and current systems of the world were adequate to guide and manage 'the dead'. These are totally inadequate for managing these newly converted people on earth.

A new guard (of Spiritually actualized/Gifted humans) must and will rise to guide and rule the world under the 'not seen' empowerment and guidance of the Spirit, not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus . . . but not before some serious destruction and displacement ravishes the surface of earth, among the unprepared masses of people.
 
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To purchase the elect, and condemn the rest :rolleyes:

You could hardly call it 'two agendas'- but let the morons be morons I suppose.
 

Gurucam

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To purchase the elect, and condemn the rest :rolleyes:

You could hardly call it 'two agendas'- but let the morons be morons I suppose.

The sad practice among traditional Christianity is that they interpret and/or modified revelations in the KJV N.T. to suit their own ideas (including their own ideas of 'goodness' and kindness).

Parables lend themselves to the above. So instead of going to truth, they delighted in parables which do not (at all) contain truth or Truth.

The result is that they totally did not seek and therefore did not get truth from the KJV N.T.

However the path to both truth and Truth are clearly and literally laid out in the KJV N.T.

Also the Lord made no secret of the fact that many are called and only a few are chosen.

Fact is, it was known that this spiritual age will come to the surface of earth. And this will create God's kingdom of heaven on earth. And then only children of God will inherit the surface of earth without children of the flesh.

2000 odd years ago, Jesus can here, under peril and knowing fully well that he would be denied, persecuted, tortured and crucified, to help 'the dead'. Jesus came to tell them how to be converted and come onto Christ. It is still there in purity, in the literal verses of the KJV N.T.

2000 odd years ago Jesus came here in a human physical body and He was denied, persecuted, tortured and crucified by the very people to whom he came to as their promised Messiah.

Then for the ensuing 2000 odd years billions distorted and butchered Jesus' teaching so as to empower their own ideas and religions. For the past, 2000 odd years, only a chosen few genuinely esteemed, recognized, used, promoted and invoked Jesus' actual message. Therefore for the past 2000 years masses of people continue to deny, persecute, torture and crucify Jesus. Some of these were false Christians (called traditional Christians). All were O.T. people.
 
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The symbolism of Christ is astounding.

He was a carpenter, who built up his cross, which is a sword into the Earth; and the Tree of life, whose vine extends to whom drinks from the waters thereof. He is the Rose of Sharon and the spread Dove_

And only the elect understand these things :rolleyes:
 

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All were called. However Jesus could not deliver his message openly, because most every one were 'the dead' and they were prepared to kill Jesus for delivering his message.

However those who knock, the truth is readily and clearly available in the KJV N.T..

Jesus said: 'For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed.' This describes people who are dead to their spirit/heart. They are 'the dead'. Then Jesus instructed his disciple, 'let the dead bury their dead'.

It was never Jesus' agenda to save one in spite of himself. Jesus could only be present and available in His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord format, for those who are ready, i.e. for those who are genuine seekers. The very great majority are 'know it all' egoists. They cannot be swayed. They delight in the law which is for 'the dead' and not for the spiritual aware who follow Jesus.

Traditional Christians perceive that goodness is about saving all. Clearly that is not Jesus' idea of goodness. Jesus exemplified that he would routinely kill a tree that brought forth bad or no fruits.

The path is clearly laid out:


Matthew: 18 KJV N.T.
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Traditional Christians simply egotistically read 'to be converted' to mean converted to Christianity according to their (parroting slogans) idea. They did not seek out the actual passage to being converted and so, they missed our 'big time'.

Matthews: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.


Fact is every thing is available in the KJV N.T. for those who seek truth. Truth will be missed only by those who corrupt and misinterpret the KJV N.T. so as to support their own ideas and their own righteousness.

Indeed most all traditional Christian distort/corrupt all revelations in the KJV N.T. which says that those in Christ have God given freedom to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit/love unconditionally. Urging of love is the essential fabric of spirit and Spirit.

The result is that now in the fullness of time when the Spiritual Age/abundant grace/consciousness is on the surface of earth, they are totally lost souls. If they become converted by force they will all have hearts that are filled with hate and bitter disappointment.


Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Luke: 13 King James Version (KJV)
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
 
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Gurucam

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In Matthews: 13 verse: 15 KJV N.T., Jesus said: 'For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed.' This describes people who are dead to their spirit/heart (their hearts are waxed gross). This also describes people whose spirit need to be saved. They are 'the dead'. They are also called children of the flesh and Satan. They savorest the things of man and not the things of God.

In fact, being in only the flesh, they have no choice they can only savorest the things of man (flesh things). They cannot savorest the things of God (spirit things). They are 'the dead'.

Then Jesus instructed his disciple, 'let the dead bury their dead'.

Matthews: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.


'Follow me and let the dead bury their dead' convey an attitude. It is not simply a casual or neutral statement. It conveys a spirit of disdain. It is also a clear division of the people. This statement divides people into 1. those who follow Jesus and 2. the dead and what they will do to each other.

Romans: 9 KJV N.T.
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.


Traditional Christians like to promote that all humans are children of God. This is not so. Up to this time there are both children of the flesh and children of God, on earth.

Children of God are those who transgress the ten commandments in order to serve spirit/love. these are the N.T. people of the world. They are the chose few from among those who seek God through the ideas in the O.T. and N.T.

At best children of the flesh esteem, use, promote and invoke the ten commandments and other such ideals and laws. These are all O.T. people on earth.

This is a chalk and cheese, affair.

The old covenant was flawed and done away with and replace by the New covenant. Jesus still managed to leave this message, in plain sight, in the KJV N.T.

This is what Jesus came to earth, 2000 odd years ago to do. The Jews and other people of that time denied and persecuted Jesus, then aided his torture and crucifixion because he intended to do away with the O.T. and the Old flawed covenant (i.e. the ten commandments).

Jesus has returned naturally and spontaneously in His full glory, Spirit form. This has occurred because of recent realignment of heavenly bodies. This new realignment is supporting His original agenda (as declared 2000 odd years ago).

Jesus is the all pervading, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus who is currently changing the world, right before our very eyes. His presence will naturally and spontaneously give inheritance to those who follow him. The dead will be mostly out of here.

Most of 'the dead' and those of the dead who are converted in these last days, will destroy themselves and be banish from the surface of earth.

Only the meek from among the dead will stand a chance of being properly converted in these last day. They are the ones, from among 'the dead' who held and promoted no absolutist position about right and wrong. They lived quietly and meekly.

When they become converted (awaken to their own heat/spirit) in these last days, they will not have hearts or spirits of hate or love. They will easily embrace the Spirit of Love/Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession/Spirit of Truth.

Those who hold, vocalize, esteem, promote, enforce, use and/or invoke absolute laws and/or ideas of right and wrong, even in the slightest way, are seriously jeopardized. These laws include the ten commandments and the likes. This is simply the way the cookie will crumble.

2000 odd years ago Jesus instructed 'turn the other cheek', 'leave justice to me'.

Jesus totally expected the above to be the way of life on earth . . . even if chaos had to prevail for a while. 2000 years later, He has returned to reward those who live by this idea and dismissed those who felt that they had to introduce and/or enforce the ten commandments, their own system of right and wrong and/or other systems of right and wrong on earth.

Galatians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.


The ten commandments was those people's schoolmaster. It was done away with 2000 odd years ago and replaced by the spirit and Spirit covenant:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 Now (since 2000 odd years ago) the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


For the past 2000 odd years billions choose and esteem the old flawed flesh/ten commandments covenant. These were/are O.T. people. They did that instead of choosing and esteeming the New Spirit of life in Christ Jesus covenant which makes one free from the flesh/ten commandments covenant and so become N.T. people.

And these O.T. people are expecting that, now in the fullness of time, Jesus will welcome them into his kingdom of heaven on earth. These O.T. people defy, deny, persecute, torture and crucify Jesus in their daily lives . . . by remained under Moses' flawed covenant . . . because it suited their convenience. They did not embrace Jesus' covenant, which is as follows:

2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
 
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Romans: 9 KJV N.T.
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh (Ishmael and his generation), these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise (Isaac and his generation) are counted for the seed.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh (Ismael and his generation) persecuted him that was born after the Spirit (Isaac and his generation), even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son (Ismael and his generation): for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman (Isaac and his generation.


Abraham's generation did not all inherit the promise (of the Spirit and heaven) from God. Abraham's generation became split as follows:

Ishmael and his generation are the Jews. These also include all who esteem, use, promote and invoke the ten commandments and all similar ideas and laws. They continue to esteem, use. promote and invoke the ten commandments and the O.T.. These did not and do not inherit the promise of the Spirit from God. They did not inherit the promise to become children of God. Also they did not inherit the promise to inherit God's kingdom of heaven on earth and in the spirit realm. They sowest to the flesh.

Isaac and his generation are the Christians. These were converted and they dropped the ten commandments. These embraced, use, promote and invoke the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus which makes one free from the ten commandments. These transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit/love unconditionally. They inherit the promise of the Spirit which include the promise to be children of God and to inherit God's kingdom of heaven on earth and in the spirit realm. They sowest to Spirit.

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh (Ishmael and his generations) shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit (Isaac and his generations) shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.


Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
(this describes Isaac generations)

Ishmael and his generations remained under the ten commandments. They remained Jews and others who esteem, use, promote and invoke the O.T. and the ten commandments etc., literally billions.

Now, under grace of God/consciousness and according to how one's soweth, separation is naturally and spontaneously at hand, as follows:

Matthew: 25 King James Version (KJV)
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand (those who sowest according to spirit and Spirit), Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand (those who sowest according to flesh and laws like the ten commandments), Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:


Simply put and according to the KJV N.T., from among all who seek God through the ideas in the Old Testament and the New Testament: Only the chosen few authentic Christians (authentic N.T. people) will be pleasing to Jesus and only they do and will continue to, inherit God's kingdom of heaven, on the surface of earth.

Simply put and according to the KJV N.T., from among all who seek God through the ideas in the Old Testament and the New Testament: Those who, even in the least way, esteem, use, promote and invoke the O.T. and the ten commandments (i.e. the law of sin and death), are the not chosen masses. They are not pleasing to Jesus. They have sin and are spiritually dead. They do and will continue to, inherit their promise land which is inside the depths of earth in hell with Satan.

The above applies only to those who use the teachings and ideas in the O.T. and N.T. Those who use other approaches to seek God will be judged under those other systems.

People who use the Bible are generally overly zealous, although the very great masses of them do not know any thing Christian.

Jesus' prophesy for these overly zealous (make believe) traditional Christians is, 'many are called and few chosen' and 'they err because they do not know scriptures and the power of God'.

They are the ones seeking to convert everyone to their corrupt and false Christianity which, among other foolish things, include people with waxed gross hearts, parroting slogans. They are the dead who are burying their dead.

You would think that they would take a hint from:

Mark: 12 KJV N.T.
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.


A billion people within traditional Christianity and a billion others (i.e. Catholics, Jews, Moslem etc.) who other wise esteem, use, promote and invoke the O.T. and/or the N.T. believe that they are among the Jesus' chosen few.

They all believe that their group of a billion (or millions), is the chosen few. They all believe that Jesus is returning to empower their particular, billion strong, tradition.

It is a foolish and sad catastrophe.
 
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Fact is Jesus is already here in His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, body. If you cannot or do not discern Him within your own heart or spirit, you are not yet among the chosen.

If you are still talking about and waiting for Jesus, please check yourself. Please awaken. Please seek an informed technique to be converted. To be converted means to become awaken to or aware of your own heart or spirit. Then quickly discern and embrace the Spirit 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus within your own heart/spirit. This is the second coming of Jesus. In this second coming Jesus is received within or through, your own heart or spirit.

In Jesus' second coming He is a perfect amalgam of the Spirit of Truth, the Spirit of Intercession and the Spirit of Love. He is all Spirit:


2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 Now (since 2000 odd years ago) the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.


'The dead' (i.e. children of the flesh who esteem the ten commandments) have to be converted in order to have communion with Jesus in His second coming:

Matthew: 18 KJV N.T.
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Traditional Christians simply egotistically read 'to be converted' to mean converted to Christianity according to their (parroting slogans) idea. They did not seek out the actual passage to being converted and so, they missed out 'big time'.

The following confirms what it means to be converted and also reiterate the benefits of being converted:


Matthews: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.


To be converted is to get the first fruit of the Holy Spirit. This is awareness of one's own heart or spirit. The following tell one what to do when one is converted:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.


The above Spirit is the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession/Spirit of Love. When one is led into all one's works by precisely what this Spirit has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do as discerned within one's own heart or spirit . . . one is an adopted child of God. One is a Christian. One is saved and delivered. One has a place among the chosen few. Jesus is totally for one. One can get no sin.

The above is the passage through which a child of the flesh, (i.e a descendant of Ishmael) can become an adopted child of God and so be equal to a descendant of Isaac. The only difference is that a descendant of Isaac is a born (not adopted) child of God. He or she does have to and does not go, through conversion and becoming into Christ.

One who is of the generation of Isaac is a born Christian/child of God, a born, under grace of God, Saint . . . not an adopted Christian/adopted child of God.
 
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