Chicken Little Might Be Wrong?

[ok doser]

... mankind has never been responsible for climate changing ...

.. the effects of a nuclear war ...

we've had nuclear war, in Hiroshima, in Nagasaki

it did not lead to climate change

......... CO2 is known by educated people to be a Green-House' gas, just for that reason.

one of a handful of minor "greenhouse gases", yes

secondary to the major greenhouse gas, water vapor

most "educated people" don't understand that at all


Just like most "educated people" are totally ignorant of the existence of mantle plumes

 

[eider]

You should spend time getting educated in the truth instead of the lies.

Educated in the truth?
Like you?
What degrees do you hold in any truths?
Just interested.

Yes, the average school-child has been brainwashed into believing a lie.

Don't look out, better tro look in, I think.
The average child could walk rings around you, I would bet.

Mankind can wipe out many ecosystems using nuclear bombs, poison gas, and other WEAPONS of mass destruction.
However, that is not what we are talking about.
We are talking about the false claims that mankind is changing the CLIMATE through CO₂ emmissions.

Like you could see that man could destroy our ecosystem in a very short time. I'll bet that you missed it because you can't or won't look outside your own box. And 'Oh Yes!', man has and is changing our climate because of CO2 emissions, you need to pay attention to your own country's scientists.

At least he has more sense than you do.

We think he is interested in his own agendas, and pushing for a less dirty world would cost him lost production, lost money, and some lost votes.

Yes, people with greenhouses often add CO₂ to increase the growth of the plants inside the greenhouse, but the temperature does not go up in the greenhouse due to the added CO₂.

Don't display such ignorant ideas. CO2 captures more sunlight and holds it in, raising temperatures, rather like glass in a greenhouse.
Ok, so got nowhere in science at school, I's say..... you couldn't have.

Follow the money.
The vast majority of climate scientists do not want to kill the cash cow that is paying them to make the claims that CO₂ emmissions are causing global warming.
However, the true crime is perpetuated by NOAA, who is supplying the fake data that is used by the climate scientists.

What a fabulous suggestion! It is the denialists who mostly follow money.

The guy in the children's show about mythical creatures such as the griffin and kraken?
I suppose that his shows about global warming are in the same vein.

What a cheap claim, and clearly you never took any interest in either Sir David's Natural Science films or his BBC series for children called 'Fabulous Animals'. See? Fabulous.

Sir David Attenborough gained an Honours Degree in Natural Sciences at Cambridge, and since then has been awarded 32 Honorary Degrees by the World's top universities. He is a Fellow of the Royal Society, and Honour which Issac Newton also held.
Got any degrees, have you?

I would rather trust a real climate scientist that actually knows what he is talking about, like Bill Gray.

I think you grasp to any who will feed your denial. Truly.

 

[ok doser]

... CO2 captures more sunlight and holds it in ...

:doh:


wot

an

idiot :nono:

 

[genuineoriginal]

man has and is changing our climate because of CO2 emissions

Well, that is a lie.

What a cheap claim, and clearly you never took any interest in either Sir David's Natural Science films or his BBC series for children called 'Fabulous Animals'. See? Fabulous.

The BBC series I have watched tend to be like Benny Hill and Monty Python's Flying Circus.

What a fabulous suggestion!

I hear that the Alphabet people love using the word Fabulous.

It is the denialists who mostly follow money.

The hoaxers screeching about global warming are all Socialists and Anti-Capitalists.
Their solution for their made-up problem is to abolish Capitalism and turn the world into a Socialist paradise.
It is the solution itself that gave away the hoax.
Instead of suggesting research grants be set up to find ways for humans to live with an increased temperature, they demanded a reduction in Capitalism by the imposition of "Carbon Credits" which would funnel money from the "disgusting capitalist pigs" into their own pockets.

 

[eider]

Well, that is a lie.

No it is not.

The BBC series I have watched tend to be like Benny Hill and Monty Python's Flying Circus.

Both were very funny.......... but you don't seem like a person with too much humour to be honest.
Try watching some of Attenborough's natural history programs....... get in to natural science, is my suggestion.

I hear that the Alphabet people love using the word Fabulous.

You should watch Rowling's 'Fantastic Beasts and where to find them'.
But if you want to be educated about climate change, just keep watch on the Antarctic research of the Thwaites 'Doomsday' glacier melt. The US researchers are reporting regularly. The glacier is the biggest in the World and a massive cargo 'plane on skids deivered hundreds of tons of suppkies to the expedition.......... the whole project is huge, so don'tr hide your head in the sand when the feedback is pouring in. Threy ain't liars.

The hoaxers screeching about global warming are all Socialists and Anti-Capitalists.

What a crazy idea. Our Conservative government has just announced that no I/C cars will be sold after 2035 now. Previously the cut-off date was 2040. Our Conservative Prime Minister is an Old Etonian........ you're lost with your very odd ideas.

Their solution for their made-up problem is to abolish Capitalism and turn the world into a Socialist paradise.

All of Europe intends to become 'Carbon-Neutral' by 2050, and Europe is mostly governed by very wealthy ministers.
You'tre living in some weird kind of box of dreams.

It is the solution itself that gave away the hoax.
Instead of suggesting research grants be set up to find ways for humans to live with an increased temperature, they demanded a reduction in Capitalism by the imposition of "Carbon Credits" which would funnel money from the "disgusting capitalist pigs" into their own pockets.

And there we have it.
So after all your waffle you admit that Global Temperatures are rising.
You would just prefer a different response, and you think your idea is best.

Exactly how much experience have you got to recommend your idea as best?
And to tell us all that our scientists and ministers are all anti-capitalists is just ignorant.

 

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And there we have it.
So after all your waffle you admit that Global Temperatures are rising.
You would just prefer a different response, and you think your idea is best.

We do not deny that the global temperature changes. It's been doing that for a long time... long before the industrial revolution.

P.S. That you feel the need to capitalize "Global Temperatures" is funny.

 

[eider]

We do not deny that the global temperature changes. It's been doing that for a long time... long before the industrial revolution.

P.S. That you feel the need to capitalize "Global Temperatures" is funny.

So laugh away.
But Global Temperatures have never risen like this in our history, and researchers tell us that they are going to keep on rising, but we have a very slight chance ifvwebdo something about our dirt.
Our Conservative Government is committed to a cleaner future, along with Europe.

At least you admit that the temperatures are soaring, the ice caps melting, thre sea rising and the weather becoming more extreme, which is what rising temperatures are causing.

That's a start.

 

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So laugh away.
But Global Temperatures have never risen like this in our history, and researchers tell us that they are going to keep on rising, but we have a very slight chance ifvwebdo something about our dirt.

• False on the "never risen like this in our history" (or course, you're vague about who's history you're talking about).
• Researchers in this area have been wrong about every prediction that they've ever made (except that the climate changes).
• It's still funny that you feel the need to capitalize "Global Temperatures". You must have an alter at your home (or do you worship with your group at a local temple of some kind? maybe out in the woods)

Our Conservative Government is committed to a cleaner future, along with Europe.

Wonderful... still does NOT support the idea that man-made activities are "destroying the planet" and that "without complete governmental control we are all doomed".

At least you admit that the temperatures are soaring, the ice caps melting, thre sea rising and the weather becoming more extreme, which is what rising temperatures are causing.

No, I DON'T admit that "temperatures are soaring". There are many reasons that the sea level can rise and melting ice is only one of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland

That's a start.

You're quite the dreamer.

 

[ok doser]

... Global Temperatures have never risen like this in our history ...

"in our history", eh?

would that include the thousands of years of historical records from the Egyptians, the Persians, the Bible?

What can be considered the first modern thermometer, the mercury thermometer with a standardized scale, was invented by Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit in 1714.

oh

i guess not

 

[eider]

• False on the "never risen like this in our history" (or course, you're vague about who's history you're talking about).

• 
  Nope...... that was correct.
  
  

  Wonderful... still does NOT support the idea that man-made activities are "destroying the planet" and that "without complete governmental control we are all doomed".

  Not long ago you claimed that it was Socialists who are claiming 'Global Warming'....... but that has slipped away now, I notice.
  Slippery.
  We need to stop the increasing levels of CO2 in our atmosphere, and then we need to start reducing them.
  Listen to real scientists.
  
  

  No, I DON'T admit that "temperatures are soaring". There are many reasons that the sea level can rise and melting ice is only one of them.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland

  Oh please! Now what do you think caused the UK to be cut off from Europe circa 15,000-20,000 years ago?
  I just have to hear this piece of science from you!
  And I would love to hear what other causes of World sea level rise there might be. Can't wait. What a laugh.
  I believed that you couldn't have too many science qualifications, somehow.
  
  
  

  You're quite the dreamer.

  You can't win discussions by chucking epithets and rhetoric about.
  Come up with some science to prove your claim, above.
  Can't wait.

 

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Not long ago you claimed that it was Socialists who are claiming 'Global Warming'....... but that has slipped away now, I notice.

QUOTE me... you're confusing me with someone else.

Slippery.
We need to stop the increasing levels of CO2 in our atmosphere, and then we need to start reducing them.
Listen to real scientists.

Fake news.

There are times in the past when both CO2 and oxygen were much higher than now.

You and Greta make a lovely couple.

 

[ok doser]

We need to stop the increasing levels of CO2 in our atmosphere ...

OK

stop exhaling

 

[eider]

QUOTE me... you're confusing me with someone else.[/QOTE]
True. Sorry.

Fake news.

There are times in the past when both CO2 and oxygen were much higher than now.

Yes. And how many hundreds of millions of years did it take for flora to reduce the CO2 and build up the oxygen? And in a couple of centuries we've turned that round by burning fossil fuels which causes.............. CO2.

You and Greta make a lovely couple.

You can't win this debate so you chuck personal rubbish about. Pathetic.
Try offering some sense.....

 

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True. Sorry.

Thanks

Yes. And how many hundreds of millions of years did it take for flora to reduce the CO2 and build up the oxygen? And in a couple of centuries we've turned that round by burning fossil fuels which causes.............. CO2.

The problem is that the earth is not hundreds of millions of years old.

You can't win this debate so you chuck personal rubbish about. Pathetic.
Try offering some sense.....

The comparison seemed totally appropriate to me.

 

[eider]

The problem is that the earth is not hundreds of millions of years old.

And there is a central 'driving force' against climate-change denialism for some.
You cannot or will not believe the anthropologists, historians, archaeologists, astronomers, physicists, geologists, many who research within the Sciences, and this creates a clear barrier for you between what you believe and general science.

So when science researchers warn of climate change there seems to be an automatic push back against......... common sense science.

For instance, research and archaeology knows that once Great Britain was joined to Europe, and a large area of the North Sea (known as Dogger) was forested. Beam trawlers still bring up tree trunk parts from those areas. But at that time the ice sheet was enormous, stretching down nearly to the Thames and London. When the ice began to melt the seas began to rise, cutting of mainland Britain from Europe. But all that happened 15-20,000 years ago, which you probably cannot accent because that's over 10,000 before the world was made. Right?


So it's pointless discussing this with you. Science needs to appeal to those who will listen and respond, I guess.

And maybe that's why you feel so driven to laugh at and insult such amazing courage as in Greta?

 

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And there is a central 'driving force' against climate-change denialism for some.
You cannot or will not believe the anthropologists, historians, archaeologists, astronomers, physicists, geologists, many who research within the Sciences, and this creates a clear barrier for you between what you believe and general science.

That's hilarious. You might as well have added Tarot Card readers in there.

So when science researchers warn of climate change there seems to be an automatic push back against......... common sense science.

It's anything but "common sense science". There are tons of highly educated and qualified scientists that disagree based on the real facts.

For instance, research and archaeology knows that once Great Britain was joined to Europe, and a large area of the North Sea (known as Dogger) was forested. Beam trawlers still bring up tree trunk parts from those areas. But at that time the ice sheet was enormous, stretching down nearly to the Thames and London. When the ice began to melt the seas began to rise, cutting of mainland Britain from Europe. But all that happened 15-20,000 years ago, which you probably cannot accent because that's over 10,000 before the world was made. Right?

I don't agree with the exact date, but the POINT is that sea level has been rising for THOUSANDS of years. So it's simple, even for child, to see that it's NOT recent man-made activities causing all of this rise (or even a significant portion).

So it's pointless discussing this with you. Science needs to appeal to those who will listen and respond, I guess.

I understand science quite well. I just don't believe your frantic HYPE.

And maybe that's why you feel so driven to laugh at and insult such amazing courage as in Greta?

Greta is a raving lunatic... like you. I guess that this seventeen year old is the kind of expert that you like the best.

 

[eider]

That's hilarious. You might as well have added Tarot Card readers in there.


It's anything but "common sense science". There are tons of highly educated and qualified scientists that disagree based on the real facts.


I don't agree with the exact date, but the POINT is that sea level has been rising for THOUSANDS of years. So it's simple, even for child, to see that it's NOT recent man-made activities causing all of this rise (or even a significant portion).


I understand science quite well. I just don't believe your frantic HYPE.


Greta is a raving lunatic... like you. I guess that this seventeen year old is the kind of expert that you like the best.

You call me a raving lunatic..
see ya later........

 

[ok doser]

RD dares to mention Saint Greta without displaying the appropriate amount of deference and awe:

You and Greta make a lovely couple.

Eider gives the response of a raving lunatic:

And maybe that's why you feel so driven to laugh at and insult such amazing courage as in Greta?

 

[jgarden]

[h=1]Chicken Little Might Be Wrong?[/h]
I suggest that we should give all the "climate change deniers" a 1 way ticket to Puerto Rico and/or the Bahamas just before hurricane season and let them experience it for themselves!"

 

[ok doser]

[h=1]Chicken Little Might Be Wrong?[/h]
I suggest that we should give all the "climate change deniers" a 1 way ticket to Puerto Rico and/or the Bahamas just before hurricane season and let them experience it for themselves!"

because Puerto Rico and the Bahamas never saw hurricanes before the industrial revolution :dizzy: