Chechnyan homosexual concentration camp

Ktoyou

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Arthur Brain said:
Then fine, good for you and A4T and this wasn't a case of every single conservative Christian voting for such a measure to begin with, far from it. But it's only far right zealots that did at the time.
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That is true and some who said yes probably would not have said so unless they were pedophiles. Now some were, but who do you think really believed so?

Forget Just Tom, as he was ego dystonic.
 
Arthur Brain

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Ktoyou said:
That is true and some who said yes probably would not have said so unless they were pedophiles. Now some were, but who do you think really believed so?

Forget Just Tom, as he was ego dystonic.
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Then maybe it's time for a re poll although LMOHM's criteria was pretty straightforward. There's certainly some on that list who were completely for it and still are just in regards to homosexuality.

'Just Tom' was admittedly in the closet himself.
 
Ktoyou

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Yes, a bit baiting to ask for names of old members. Some, I believe, were very strong on that, but some, it would be how they acted out as homosexual, not just being one.
 
Arthur Brain

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Ktoyou said:
Yes, a bit baiting to ask for names of old members. Some, I believe, were very strong on that, but some, it would be how they acted out as homosexual, not just being one.
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Maybe a new thread/poll would be an idea to get the current consensus then...

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Ktoyou

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Arthur Brain said:
Maybe a new thread/poll would be an idea to get the current consensus then...

:think:
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Well, you could start one and if it only says the person is a homosexual and no specific acts, I'd vote. That old thread, you might find I called Allsmiles a wimp. :rotfl:
 
Arthur Brain

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Ktoyou said:
Well, you could start one and if it only says the person is a homosexual and no specific acts, I'd vote. That old thread, you might find I called Allsmiles a wimp. :rotfl:
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Not sure if non subscribers can post polls. Been that long since I started one and I didn't seem to have the option...

I vaguely remember allsmiles...

:)
 
Ktoyou

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Not sure if non subscribers can post polls. Been that long since I started one and I didn't seem to have the option...

I vaguely remember allsmiles...

:)
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He did not like me very much :p Personally I am not all that big on the gay threads. My interests are more to examine 'is Sean Spicer an idiot' thread.
 
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  • Chechnya opens world's first concentration camp for homosexuals since Hitler's in the 1930s where campaigners say gay men are being tortured with electric shocks and beaten to death
  • Chechyna has opened the first concentration camp for homosexuals since Hitler
  • Prisoners reportedly tortured with electric shocks and some beaten to death
  • One of those who fled said prisoners were beaten to force them to reveal other members of the gay community
  • Comes after 100 gay men were detained and three killed in Chechyna last week

By Thomas Burrows for MailOnline


Chechyna has opened the first concentration camp for homosexuals since Hitler, where campaigners say gay men are being tortured with electric shocks and beaten to death.

It comes after it was claimed 100 gay men had been detained and three killed in Chechnya last week.

A report by Novoya Gazeta said authorities had set up several camps where homosexuals are killed or forced to promise to leave the republic.

One of the camps is reportedly at the former military headquarters in the town of Argun.

President Razman Kadyrov (right), who is a key ally of Vladimir Putin , allegedly ordered the clampdown

Svetlana Zakharova, from the Russian LGBT Network, told MailOnline: 'Gay people have been detained and rounded up and we are working to evacuate people from the camps and some have now left the region.

'Those who have escaped said they are detained in the same room and people are kept altogether, around 30 or 40. They are tortured with electric currents and heavily beaten, sometimes to death.'

One of those who escaped told Novoya Gazeta that prisoners were beaten to force them to reveal other members of the gay community.

Another prisoner who fled said that before being incarcerated in one of the camps, he had been forced to pay bribes to Chechen police of thousands of rubles every month in order to survive.

Now the regime had taken another step against gays by creating these camps, the survivor said.

Alexander Artemyev, from Amnesty International in Russia, told MailOnline: 'We can only call on the Russian authorities to investigate the allegations. Homosexuals in Chechyna are treated very harshly and prosecuted daily and they are afraid to talk about it.

'They either have to hide or leave the republic. We are keeping in touch with the LGBT network that helps people in Russia to find shelter. The problem is people there cannot talk about it as it puts their lives and those they speak to, in danger. This is the main issue we are facing in Russia and the main challenge.'

Ekaterina Sokirianskaia, Russia project director for the International Crisis Group, told MailOnline: 'The story is very much developing...victims are escaping.'

Last week Chechen police are believed to have rounded up more than 100 men

Tanya Lokshina, from Human Rights Watch in Moscow, said: 'For several weeks now, a brutal campaign against LGBT people has been sweeping through Chechnya.

'These days, very few people in Chechnya dare speak to human rights monitors or journalists even anonymously because the climate of fear is overwhelming and people have been largely intimidated into silence.

'Filing an official complaint against local security officials is extremely dangerous, as retaliation by local authorities is practically inevitable.

'It is difficult to overstate just how vulnerable LGBT people are in Chechnya, where homophobia is intense and rampant. LGBT people are in danger not only of persecution by the authorities but also of falling victim to "honour killings" by their own relatives for tarnishing family honour.'

Last week Novoya Gazeta said Chechen police had rounded up more than 100 men suspected of being gay and killed three.

It claimed that among those detained were well-known local television personalities and religious figures.

President Razman Kadyrov, who is a key ally of Vladimir Putin, allegedly ordered the clampdown, although officially his regime denied the arrests claiming 'it is impossible to persecute those who are not in the republic'.

Kadyrov, pictured, has been accused of earlier human rights violations

Kadyrov, who introduced Islamic rule in the Muslim-majority region, has been accused of earlier human rights violations.

He described the allegations as 'absolute lies and disinformation'.

Kadyrov's spokesman Alvi Karimov told the Interfax News Agency: 'You cannot arrest or repress people who just don't exist in the republic.

'If such people existed in Chechnya, law enforcement would not have to worry about them, as their own relatives would have sent them to where they could never return.'

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I'm sure there are more than a few posters here cheering this and praying that this sort of thing spreads. :party:
 
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Actually, in addition to my last there were a couple of people who changed tack on that vote. 'Mr Deets' for one, who became a thoroughly more agreeable person after ditching the far right brand of fundamentalism so fairs fair.
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Mr. Deets dumped GOD and embraced atheism.

His mother and I are still praying for him.
 
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