SaulToPaul 2
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Post# 113 employs the total destruction of your last post and imposes de facto annihilation of all future posts.
Can a Roman Catholic be a Christian?
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Post# 113 employs the total destruction of your last post and imposes de facto annihilation of all future posts.
The Catholic Church is the true Church if Christ.
That statement needs to be drilled down into, because it is partially correctly but also wrong at the same time.
SaulToPaul 2
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In the New Covenant, are all believers priests?
In the catholic church, are all believers priests?
Catholics are not trusting in the work of Christ to save them. They are trusting in their own works.
Bard_the_Bowman
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With all due respect to you, Robert, your statement above is completely false.
Peace.
That post earns you an indulgence -
Bard_the_Bowman
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LOL!
Really? Based on what?I don't think you can gain an indulgence every time you make a true statement.
Peace.
Yes, it is false. The sad part is, a simple read of the Catechism of the Catholic Church would have shown him he is wrong. But Pate is not interested in facts.
Or at least a hearty "Thanks".
The worship of Mary among the RCC is no secret from the entire world, as is the statues and other religious paraphernalia in their "holy" places.
The RCC is a continuation of the spirit of Jereboam who appointed his own priesthood and prevented the people leaving his kingdom to enter the true worship at Jerusalem.
I am sorry that so many of the RCC will burn in hell, who lead people astray as Ahab and Jezebell did --
Rev 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
Just the confessional and the forbidding of marriage should make it so obvious that the RCC is a fake church.
1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
Christians ought remind others of these things--
1Ti 4:6 If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.
LA
The RCC is a continuation of the spirit of Jereboam who appointed his own priesthood and prevented the people leaving his kingdom to enter the true worship at Jerusalem.
I am sorry that so many of the RCC will burn in hell, who lead people astray as Ahab and Jezebell did --
Rev 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
Just the confessional and the forbidding of marriage should make it so obvious that the RCC is a fake church.
1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
Christians ought remind others of these things--
1Ti 4:6 If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.
LA
LOL. You mean "Christian."
Bard_the_Bowman
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How exactly to Catholics worship Mary? What does that look like?
By the way, you are aware that ancient Israel had statues and other religious paraphernalia in their "holy" places and it was commanded to be so from God Himself, right?
With all due respect to you, that is ridiculous. Do you honestly believe that anyone in the Catholic Church has the power to prevent someone from leaving it?
They simply do not.
Anyone can leave the Church whenever they want to. As a matter of fact, some denominations are made up of a majority of ex-Catholics. I haven't looked into it personally but I have heard it said that if it were a denomination, the 2nd largest Christian denomination would be the group of ex-Catholics. Not sure if that is true or not but it doesn't seem that far-fetched to me.
I am sorry that anyone will experience hell. I suppose some Catholics may, some may not. Some Lutherans may, some may not. Some Baptists may, some may not. Some non-denom Christians may, some may not.
I would be careful about saying "many" of any group will.
That references the Catholic Church? I'm not sure I'd agree with that interpretation.
Confession is biblical. It comes from John 20.
You are confused. The Catholic Church doesn't forbid anyone from getting married. I am assuming you are referring to priestly celibacy. Anyone who is Catholic can get married if they wish. Some choose to. Some choose not to. Some deliberately choose not to and enter the priesthood. And they do that of their own free will knowing that they are choosing a celibate life. They are simply taking Paul's words seriously from 1 Corinthians 7:32-33 and elsewhere.
But nobody forbids them from choosing to get married instead.
Since you are mistaken on both points...I would say, then, that the Catholic Church is not a so-called "fake" Church.
More likely Paul is here referencing some forms of Gnosticism that taught that for anyone to marry was evil for matter itself is evil and only the spiritual is good.
Agreed. Amen.
LA[/QUOTE]
Peace.
Bard_the_Bowman
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Believe that that the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ was 100% sufficient to pay for all of your sins - with nothing else included, like baptism, confessing your sins to a priest, or embracing the teachings of the catholic church
Believe that that the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ was 100% sufficient to pay for all of your sins - with nothing else included, like baptism, confessing your sins to a priest, participating in any other sacraments, or embracing the teachings of the catholic church.
The catholic church is a detriment to salvation and not a valid way to salvation.
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