Calvinism, Catholicism, Religion: A Wrong View of God

beloved57

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If anyone goes to hell it will be because they did not honor God by believing on his Son Jesus Christ.

So then you believe that people who Christ lived and died for and rose for will go to Hell in unbelief in their sins! This is teaching that the devil defeats Christ!
 

Robert Pate

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So then you believe that people who Christ lived and died for and rose for will go to Hell in unbelief in their sins! This is teaching that the devil defeats Christ!

No, its teaching what the Bible says.

"That whosoever believes in him should not perish" John 3:16.

Unless YOU believe in Jesus, YOU will perish.
 

beloved57

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No, its teaching what the Bible says.

"That whosoever believes in him should not perish" John 3:16.

Unless YOU believe in Jesus, YOU will perish.

Every one Christ lived and died for is a believer,they have obeyed Gods Law perfectly through Christ!
 

beloved57

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No, its teaching what the Bible says.

"That whosoever believes in him should not perish" John 3:16.

Unless YOU believe in Jesus, YOU will perish.

You are teaching that the devil defeats Christ because he is the author of unbelief Lk 8:12 !
 

Robert Pate

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You are teaching that the devil defeats Christ because he is the author of unbelief Lk 8:12 !

You are again making false accusations.

Jesus has defeated sin, death and the devil, Colossians 2:15.

Where does it say that the devil is the "author of unbelief"?

Luke 8:12 Says... "Lest THEY should believe and be saved"

They didn't want to believe so the devil took the word out of their heart.
 

Cruciform

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To believe Christ is to believe Christ's Gospel. To believe Christ's Gospel is to believe that sin, death and the devil have been abolished and that Jesus has perfected our humanity and has taken it to heaven, Ephesians 2:6. "And you are complete in HIM" Colossians 2:10.
The opinions that you have been fed by your chosen recently-invented, man-made non-Catholic sect are noted.
 

beloved57

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You are again making false accusations.

Jesus has defeated sin, death and the devil, Colossians 2:15.

Where does it say that the devil is the "author of unbelief"?

Luke 8:12 Says... "Lest THEY should believe and be saved"

They didn't want to believe so the devil took the word out of their heart.

False accusations my foot ! You teach that people Christ died for die in unbelief, unbelief is the work of satan !

Did you know that unbelief is satans doing against man ? I have a post on it here:

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums...=59236&page=55 post 824
 

Robert Pate

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False accusations my foot ! You teach that people Christ died for die in unbelief, unbelief is the work of satan !

Did you know that unbelief is satans doing against man ? I have a post on it here:

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums...=59236&page=55 post 824

If God forced some to believe and then forced some not to believe what kind of a God would that be?

He would be an unjust, unmerciful, unrighteous tyrant.
 

beloved57

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If God forced some to believe and then forced some not to believe what kind of a God would that be?

He would be an unjust, unmerciful, unrighteous tyrant.

God doesn't force them to believe, they are made willing in the day of His power Ps 110:3 !
 

beloved57

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If God forced some to believe and then forced some not to believe what kind of a God would that be?

He would be an unjust, unmerciful, unrighteous tyrant.

So you believe that Christ was defeated by the devil, unbelief is the work of the devil Lk 8:12 !
 

Robert Pate

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God doesn't force them to believe, they are made willing in the day of His power Ps 110:3 !


Really, did you have a choice to believe or not to believe?

Of course not.

According to Calvinism you were forced to believe, you had no choice in the matter.
 

beloved57

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Really, did you have a choice to believe or not to believe?

Of course not.

According to Calvinism you were forced to believe, you had no choice in the matter.

The Elect are made willing in the Day of Christ's Power Ps 110:3

3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.

Besides that, Christ believed first for His People. Was He forced to Believe when He kept the Law for them, or was He willing ?
 

Robert Pate

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The Elect are made willing in the Day of Christ's Power Ps 110:3

3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.

Besides that, Christ believed first for His People. Was He forced to Believe when He kept the Law for them, or was He willing ?

So you are just some kind of a puppet with no will of your own.

Sorry, but Jesus didn't die on the cross for puppets.
 

beloved57

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So you are just some kind of a puppet with no will of your own.

Sorry, but Jesus didn't die on the cross for puppets.

The Elect are made willing in the Day of Christ's Power Ps 110:3

3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.

Besides that, Christ believed first for His People. Was He forced to Believe when He kept the Law for them, or was He willing ?
 

Robert Pate

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Banned
The Elect are made willing in the Day of Christ's Power Ps 110:3

3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.

Besides that, Christ believed first for His People. Was He forced to Believe when He kept the Law for them, or was He willing ?


Christ did not die on the cross for puppets or robots.

If you want to be saved you will have to come to Christ by your own free will and ask him to save you, Romans 10:13.
 

beloved57

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Christ did not die on the cross for puppets or robots.

If you want to be saved you will have to come to Christ by your own free will and ask him to save you, Romans 10:13.

Invalid and rabbit trail comments !

You teach that Christ's death has been defeated by the devil who holds men in unbelief ! Lk 8:12 !
 

Robert Pate

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Invalid and rabbit trail comments !

You teach that Christ's death has been defeated by the devil who holds men in unbelief ! Lk 8:12 !

You are in denial of the fact that Christ and Christ alone can save you.

John Calvin cannot save you. Only Jesus Christ can save you.
 
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