Calvinism: A Departure From the Gospel and Justification by Faith

Robert Pate

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Predestinationism is another Gospel.

Paul said to the Galatians, "I marvel that you are so soon removed from him that called you into the GRACE OF CHRIST unto another Gospel. Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the Gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other Gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed" Galatians 1:6-8.

What was Paul's Gospel?

Paul's Gospel was about the saving work of Jesus Christ. Paul's Gospel makes all other Gospels and religions worthless. The Gospel is about how Jesus Christ has reconciled the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:19.

"But to him that does no works (or religion) but believes on him that justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness, Romans 4:5. Because, all things are of God, who has reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ. God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them" 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

If we have been reconciled unto God by Jesus Christ, then why does anyone need to be predestinated? The Gospel makes predestination worthless. No one needs to be predestinated because salvation has been provided for everyone, "That he (Jesus) by the grace of God should taste death for EVERYONE" Hebrews 2:9.

Before Jesus died on the cross he said, "It is finished" what he meant by that is that he had done all that he could do for the salvation of fallen man. "We are complete in Jesus Christ" Colossians 2:10. Because of the work of Jesus that has done in our name and on our behalf, God is now at peace with the world and humanity.

"And having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile ALL THINGS unto himself ; by, I say, whether there be things on the earth or in heaven, and you, that were sometimes alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now has he reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblamable and unprovable in his sight. Colossians 1:20-22.

Wouldn't you like to stand before God in the judgment as holy, unblamable and unprovable in his sight? You can by simple child like faith in Christ and his Gospel. No predestination or religion necessary.
 

beloved57

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Predestinationism is another Gospel.

Paul said to the Galatians, "I marvel that you are so soon removed from him that called you into the GRACE OF CHRIST unto another Gospel. Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the Gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other Gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed" Galatians 1:6-8.

What was Paul's Gospel?

Paul's Gospel was about the saving work of Jesus Christ. Paul's Gospel makes all other Gospels and religions worthless. The Gospel is about how Jesus Christ has reconciled the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:19.

"But to him that does no works (or religion) but believes on him that justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness, Romans 4:5. Because, all things are of God, who has reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ. God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them".

If we have been reconciled unto God by Jesus Christ, then why does anyone need to be predestinated? The Gospel makes predestination worthless. No one needs to be predestinated because salvation has been provided for everyone, "That he (Jesus) by the grace of God should taste death for EVERYONE" Hebrews 2:9.

Before Jesus died on the cross he said, "It is finished" what he meant by that is that he had done all that he could do for the salvation of fallen man. "We are complete in Jesus Christ" Colossians 2:10. Because of the work of Jesus that has done in our name and on our behalf, God is now at peace with the world and humanity.

"And having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile ALL THINGS unto himself ; by, I say, whether there be things on the earth or in heaven, and you, that were sometimes alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now has he reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblamable and unprovable in his sight. Colossians 1:20-22.


Wouldn't you like to stand before God in the judgment as holy, unblamable and unprovable in his sight? You can by simple child like faith in Christ and his Gospel. No predestination or religion necessary.
You teach a false gospel that has people Christ died for going to perish anyways. You believe that man's sinfulness is greater than God's grace.

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fishrovmen

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You just said yesterday that the Gospel is that Jesus is God's "new creation" and "new humanity". You also stated that there is only ONE Gospel. which is it?
 

Robert Pate

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You just said yesterday that the Gospel is that Jesus is God's "new creation" and "new humanity". You also stated that there is only ONE Gospel. which is it?

Jesus, as God's new Adam and God's new humanity has reconciled us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19. When God accepted Jesus back into heaven we were accepted in him.
 

beloved57

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Jesus, as God's new Adam and God's new humanity has reconciled us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19. When God accepted Jesus back into heaven we were accepted in him.
You teach that saved accepted people of God, can loose their salvation and wind up in hell. That's blasphemy

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Robert Pate

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You teach that saved accepted people of God, can loose their salvation and wind up in hell. That's blasphemy

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Only those like yourself that have rejected salvation by grace through faith will wind up in hell.
 

patrick jane

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Predestinationism is another Gospel.

Paul said to the Galatians, "I marvel that you are so soon removed from him that called you into the GRACE OF CHRIST unto another Gospel. Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the Gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other Gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed" Galatians 1:6-8.

What was Paul's Gospel?

Paul's Gospel was about the saving work of Jesus Christ. Paul's Gospel makes all other Gospels and religions worthless. The Gospel is about how Jesus Christ has reconciled the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:19.

"But to him that does no works (or religion) but believes on him that justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness, Romans 4:5. Because, all things are of God, who has reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ. God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them" 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

If we have been reconciled unto God by Jesus Christ, then why does anyone need to be predestinated? The Gospel makes predestination worthless. No one needs to be predestinated because salvation has been provided for everyone, "That he (Jesus) by the grace of God should taste death for EVERYONE" Hebrews 2:9.

Before Jesus died on the cross he said, "It is finished" what he meant by that is that he had done all that he could do for the salvation of fallen man. "We are complete in Jesus Christ" Colossians 2:10. Because of the work of Jesus that has done in our name and on our behalf, God is now at peace with the world and humanity.

"And having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile ALL THINGS unto himself ; by, I say, whether there be things on the earth or in heaven, and you, that were sometimes alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now has he reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblamable and unprovable in his sight. Colossians 1:20-22.

Wouldn't you like to stand before God in the judgment as holy, unblamable and unprovable in his sight? You can by simple child like faith in Christ and his Gospel. No predestination or religion necessary.
Good post Robert
 

Robert Pate

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Again you teach that Christ death failed to save sinners that He died for. That's Blasphemous.

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If those sinners that Christ died for don't call on the name of the Lord to be saved, Romans 10:13. Then they will go to hell just like you.
 

beloved57

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If those sinners that Christ died for don't call on the name of the Lord to be saved, Romans 10:13. Then they will go to hell just like you.
You have to be saved to call upon the name of lord. The Gospel is hid to them that are lost 2 Cor 4:3-4

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Robert Pate

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They are lost because Christ did not die for their sins.

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Read this 25 times.

"God so loved THE WORLD that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believes in him shall not perish"

You are going to perish.
 

Crucible

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Sovereign Election:
A person is not saved because he believes in Christ, he believes in Christ because he is saved.

(God's providence brought him forward)


VS

Prevenient Grace:
A person does not believe in Christ because he is saved, he is saved because he believes in Christ.

(He brought himself into God's providence)



That's how simple and clear cut the difference is between Calvinist and Arminian theology.
Anti-Calvinists on here are so far away from proper theology it's almost humorous. It seems more like they want something to attack and for some reason found it necessary that Calvinism be that thing.
 
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