By January 1/2 of UK households in fuel poverty

[Gary K]

Then sanctions AB is gung ho about will be putting half the households in the UK in poverty, Yup, Gotta punish Putin by driving yourself into poverty.

Half Of UK Households Will Be In Fuel Poverty By January - GreatGameInternational

Since it purchases gas from the EU, the UK is still susceptible to the consequences of EU's political activity even after Brexit. This has led to the projection that half of the UK households is set to be in a fuel poverty by January.

greatgameindia.com

 

[Arthur Brain]

Then sanctions AB is gung ho about will be putting half the households in the UK in poverty, Yup, Gotta punish Putin by driving yourself into poverty.

Half Of UK Households Will Be In Fuel Poverty By January - GreatGameInternational

Since it purchases gas from the EU, the UK is still susceptible to the consequences of EU's political activity even after Brexit. This has led to the projection that half of the UK households is set to be in a fuel poverty by January.

greatgameindia.com

"Gung ho" about?

For starters, the rise in energy prices over here isn't solely down to Russia's invasion of the Ukraine so for once, stop apologizing for the Russian despot. Prices have risen, they're set to go up again in October and come January it's gonna be even less fun and I'm one of those households affected. There's more than one factor and frankly, no fan of how this has been handled. The UK has had ample time to have measures in place for an economic crisis.

 

[TomO]

I'm one of those households affected.

You poor fuel poverty victim...Post what city you are in and I'll donate some Sterno to the local fuel bank for you.

 

[ok doser]

Not just the idiots in Britain


BERLIN—“It’s going to be a choice many of us will have to face when winter comes: freeze or starve.”

Freeze or starve? Sanctioning Russia leaves Germans a choice this winter

BERLIN—“It’s going to be a choice many of us will have to face when winter comes: freeze or starve.” So says Günter Pohl, a glassworker from the the town of Sprockhövel in Germany’s industrial Ruhr region.

www.peoplesworld.org

 

[Gary K]

Not just the idiots in Britain


BERLIN—“It’s going to be a choice many of us will have to face when winter comes: freeze or starve.”

Freeze or starve? Sanctioning Russia leaves Germans a choice this winter

BERLIN—“It’s going to be a choice many of us will have to face when winter comes: freeze or starve.” So says Günter Pohl, a glassworker from the the town of Sprockhövel in Germany’s industrial Ruhr region.

www.peoplesworld.org

I can't remember which eastern European country it is but they are ignoring the sanctions and buying Russian gas anyway. Their attitude is that they didn't agree with the sanctions to begin with so they aren't going to suffer along with the guilty.

 

[Arthur Brain]

You poor fuel poverty victim...Post what city you are in and I'll donate some Sterno to the local fuel bank for you.

Pass...

 

[TomO]

Pass...

Some Zippo fuel maybe?

 

[Arthur Brain]

Some Zippo fuel maybe?

Too destitute to smoke nowadays...

 

[Gary K]

The effects on Britain are just starting. Their economy will completely collapse in a very short time. The suffering there is going to be intense and it is going to hit here soon too. No one alive has ever seen what is going to happen. There will be no more credit for anyone so nothing will move.

Escalating Blowback from Russian Sanctions

sonar21.com

 

[ok doser]

Never underestimate Joe's ability to f(oul) things up

Hussein the Kenyan

 

[ok doser]

This is America but it seems to fit in this thread


... for some 22,000 Xcel Energy customers in Colorado who wanted to be a little more comfortable on Tuesday when the thermometer was pegged at 90+ degrees, a bizarre message flashed on their thermostats indicating they’d lost the ability to control the temperature in their own homes.

According to KMGH-TV, “Energy Emergency” was part of the message that flashed on thermostats as temperatures skyrocketed and Xcel customers desperately tried to crank the A/C.

“Temperature locked temporarily during energy emergency. Due to a rare energy emergency that may affect the local energy grid, your temperature slider has been changed from 8:00 pm – 8:00 pm because you enrolled in a Community Energy Savings Program,” the full message read.

Nanny State Test: Company Locks Thermostats of 22K Customers, Cites 'Energy Emergency'

Xcel Energy locked 22,000 Colorado customers out of their own thermostats, citing an "energy emergency." Customers complained on social media.

pjmedia.com

 

[Gary K]

This is America but it seems to fit in this thread


... for some 22,000 Xcel Energy customers in Colorado who wanted to be a little more comfortable on Tuesday when the thermometer was pegged at 90+ degrees, a bizarre message flashed on their thermostats indicating they’d lost the ability to control the temperature in their own homes.

According to KMGH-TV, “Energy Emergency” was part of the message that flashed on thermostats as temperatures skyrocketed and Xcel customers desperately tried to crank the A/C.

“Temperature locked temporarily during energy emergency. Due to a rare energy emergency that may affect the local energy grid, your temperature slider has been changed from 8:00 pm – 8:00 pm because you enrolled in a Community Energy Savings Program,” the full message read.

Nanny State Test: Company Locks Thermostats of 22K Customers, Cites 'Energy Emergency'

Xcel Energy locked 22,000 Colorado customers out of their own thermostats, citing an "energy emergency." Customers complained on social media.

pjmedia.com

With the new "smart meters" this is going to be sop. Your electricity will be cut off by the meter if you have an old manual thermostat or old manually controlled water heaters. This is going to be government control of every part of our lives. The only way to get away from it is to go off grid and use wood heat.

 

[TomO]

This is America but it seems to fit in this thread


... for some 22,000 Xcel Energy customers in Colorado who wanted to be a little more comfortable on Tuesday when the thermometer was pegged at 90+ degrees, a bizarre message flashed on their thermostats indicating they’d lost the ability to control the temperature in their own homes.

According to KMGH-TV, “Energy Emergency” was part of the message that flashed on thermostats as temperatures skyrocketed and Xcel customers desperately tried to crank the A/C.

“Temperature locked temporarily during energy emergency. Due to a rare energy emergency that may affect the local energy grid, your temperature slider has been changed from 8:00 pm – 8:00 pm because you enrolled in a Community Energy Savings Program,” the full message read.

Nanny State Test: Company Locks Thermostats of 22K Customers, Cites 'Energy Emergency'

Xcel Energy locked 22,000 Colorado customers out of their own thermostats, citing an "energy emergency." Customers complained on social media.

pjmedia.com

Had a similar system on my A/C and Hot Water Heater when I first bought the house...Shockingly easy to circumvent.

 

[TomO]

With the new "smart meters" this is going to be sop. Your electricity will be cut off by the meter if you have an old manual thermostat or old manually controlled water heaters. This is going to be government control of every part of our lives. The only way to get away from it is to go off grid and use wood heat.

Provided you have an EPA approved stove.

 

[Gary K]

Provided you have an EPA approved stove.

Not necessarily. Used stoves are available and I know people who use wood stoves that are 30+ years old.
They just keep repairing them and replacing the firebrick.

 

[Yorzhik]

With the new "smart meters" this is going to be sop. Your electricity will be cut off by the meter if you have an old manual thermostat or old manually controlled water heaters. This is going to be government control of every part of our lives. The only way to get away from it is to go off grid and use wood heat.

When our old meter was exchanged for the smart one, I mentioned to the installer this would be used to shut off people's power for political reasons. He laughed pretty hard and agreed with me because most people he was installing the new meters at thought the smart meters could only be used at their will and lowered costs. He showed me the contract that said the company could only turn off power remotely in an unoccupied house, but then added that this was an amendment in a long line of amendments so they could change the contract at any time to whatever they wanted. He was a good guy and said he had contingency plans in his own house not for accidental power outages, but also for forced outages - and suggested I do the same.

 

[Gary K]

When our old meter was exchanged for the smart one, I mentioned to the installer this would be used to shut off people's power for political reasons. He laughed pretty hard and agreed with me because most people he was installing the new meters at thought the smart meters could only be used at their will and lowered costs. He showed me the contract that said the company could only turn off power remotely in an unoccupied house, but then added that this was an amendment in a long line of amendments so they could change the contract at any time to whatever they wanted. He was a good guy and said he had contingency plans in his own house not for accidental power outages, but also for forced outages - and suggested I do the same.

Doesn't surprise me at all as there are decent people in all walks of life.

The guy that installed the smart meters here lied to me when I asked if the landlord had ok'ed it , He said she had requested it. I asked her about it later and she knew nothing about it. Nobody had said anything to her.

 

[eider]

Pass...

Take it! You'd take a beer off him, surely?
An old friend of mine has always sat on the bus with a book on cold days. He's really worried now because he knows that the buses are going to be crammed full after 0930hrs.

 

[Gary K]

Take it! You'd take a beer off him, surely?
An old friend of mine has always sat on the bus with a book on cold days. He's really worried now because he knows that the buses are going to be crammed full after 0930hrs.

It's always the poor and the elderly who pay the steepest price for the sins of the corrupt politicians. It is going to be the same way here.

 

[eider]

It's always the poor and the elderly who pay the steepest price for the sins of the corrupt politicians. It is going to be the same way here.

Yes.
Trick is, to vote for any decent politicians, I guess.