Bill allowing guns on campus one step closer to law

[genuineoriginal]

If my data is "outdated," be my guest to produce data after this legislation was introduced to prove that it had a positive effect!

You are the one that claimed your data was irrelevant.
Do better, if you can.

- In 1999, National Rifle Association (NRA) CEO Wayne LaPierre said, “Schools should have absolutely zero tolerance for weapons of any kind, except in the hands of law enforcement. The academic environment is sacred, and more importantly, it's safe, and students need to feel safe.”

- A 2008 ruling by the Supreme Court (D.C. v. Heller) determined that laws banning the carrying of concealed weapons in public are both reasonable and constitutional.

- The Violence Policy Center (VPC) has documented 24 mass shootings committed by concealed handgun permit holders since May 2007 (mass shootings are shootings that involve three or more deaths).

- The International Association of Campus Law Enforcement Administrators (IACLEA) has stated that “There is...a real concern that campus police officers responding to a situation involving an active shooter may not be able to distinguish between the shooter and others with firearms at colleges that allow guns on their premises.”

- The Virginia Tech Review Panel recommended that guns be banned from college campuses after examining the tragic shooting that took place at the school in April 2007.

- The American Association of State Colleges and Universities (AASCU) has stated that, “While police are extensively trained to deal with crises, students or university staff with concealed weapons are not ... Even with the best of intentions, armed students or employees could escalate an already explosive situation further, accidentally cause harm or use a gun in a situation that is not warranted.”

- The Violence Policy Center (VPC) has documented the cases of 516 Americans who were shot and killed by concealed handgun permit holders between May 2007 and June 2013. This figure includes 14 law enforcement officers.

- John Woods lost his girlfriend in the 2007 mass shooting at Virginia Tech. He has testified against guns on campus legislation in Texas and pointed out, "If more guns meant less crime, the United States would be the safest place in the world."

http://www.armedcampuses.org/

- Arizona, October 16, 2008
A University of Arizona student shoots two intruders in self-defense.

- South Carolina, August 9, 2008
A Citadel military school student successfully scares off a bat-wielding road rage driver by brandishing a handgun in self-defense.

- Michigan, January 20, 2008
A University of Michigan student shoots and kills two intruders in self-defense.

- Utah, September 18, 2007
A Utah Valley State College licensed to carry a concealed weapon shot a pit bull that was attacking him. The animal survived the shooting, and at the student’s request, no charges were filed against the dog’s owner.

- California, April 25, 2007
University of Southern California students overpowered a man, taking away his firearm and holding him at gunpoint for police. The man had become violent and threatening towards a female at a student party and refused to leave.

- Ohio, April 24, 2007
After a man demanded entry to a University of Akron student’s apartment and threatened him with a gun, the student returned fire with a roommate’s gun. The suspect then fled the scene.

- Texas, January 25, 2007
A Texas Tech student with a concealed carry permit grabbed his gun and hid when he heard someone trying to break in to his house. When the perpetrators successfully gained entry, the student took aim at the intruders. One fled, the other was detained for police.

- Texas, January 24, 2007
A Texas Tech student with a concealed carry permit returned home to find his car and home broken into, with the perpetrators still inside the house. The student fired two warning shots, causing the would-be thieves to flee.

- Florida, September 8, 2006
Two South Florida Community College students were attacked outside their apartment, but one used a .45 handgun to shoot one of the attackers in the chest. The other fled.

- Virginia, December 10, 2005
A Virginia Commonwealth University student was initially charged with murder after shooting an armed gang member in a confrontation outside a coin laundry business, but was cleared by authorities two months later when it was learned he acted in self-defense.

- Georgia, September 19, 2005
After dialing 911, a Mercer University School of Law student shot and killed a man that had broken into his home.

- Kentucky, May 2, 2005
A University of Kentucky student was cleared of wrongdoing after shooting a Louisville man who was robbing him outside a Lexington apartment complex.5

http://concealedcampus.org/campus-crime/

 

[genuineoriginal]

John Woods lost his girlfriend in the 2007 mass shooting at Virginia Tech. He has testified against guns on campus legislation in Texas and pointed out, "If more guns meant less crime, the United States would be the safest place in the world."

http://www.armedcampuses.org/

Are meds to blame for Cho's rampage?
Experts say psychiatric drugs linked
to long list of school shooting sprees

Banning guns is not the solution, banning psychiatric drugs would much more effective int preventing school shootings.

 

[jgarden]

18 Safest Countries To Live
May 13, 2014

1. Denmark

2. Norway

3. Singapore

4. Slovenia

5. Sweden

6. Iceland

7. Belgium

8. Czech Republic

9. Switzerland

10. Japan

11. Ireland

12. Finland

13. New Zealand

14. Canada

15. Austria

16. Bhutan

17. Australia

18. Portugal

http://www.exposingtruth.com/18-safest-countries-live/#ixzz3UnLzolfl

None of these countries subscribe to the NRA's contention that "arming" private citizens acts as deterent against crime.

Many of the examples that "genuineoriginal" provides appear to have taken place off campus - 93% of homicides involving students takes place off campus.

The fact remains that while the homicide rate for persons ages 17 to 29 in America is 14.1 per 100,000 (2 1/2 times the national rate of 5.7), the homicide rate at post-secondary education institutions/campuses was 0.07 per 100,000.

That means that once students step on campus, they are more than 200 times safer - where guns are banned.

Given that "genuineoriginal" is either unable or unwilling to accept my challenge to provide data for those states that recently allowed students to carry concealed weapons on campus there is no proof to substantiate his claims and absolutely no reason to assume that student access to guns will have a positive impact.

 

[Saved.One.by.Grace]

None of these countries subscribe to the NRA's contention that "arming" private citizens acts as deterent against crime.

Many of the examples that "genuineoriginal" provides appear to have taken place off campus - 93% of homicides involving students takes place off campus.

The fact remains that while the homicide rate for persons ages 17 to 29 in America is 14.1 per 100,000 (2 1/2 times the national rate of 5.7), the homicide rate at post-secondary education institutions/campuses was 0.07 per 100,000.

That means that once students step on campus, they are more than 200 times safer - where guns are banned.

Given that "genuineoriginal" is either unable or unwilling to accept my challenge to provide data for those states that recently allowed students to carry concealed weapons on campus there is no proof to substantiate his claims and absolutely no reason to assume that student access to guns will have a positive impact.

Another way of looking at this is racially. Anyone brave enough to look at the percentage of Black Crime versus White Crime?

 

[genuineoriginal]

Many of the examples that "genuineoriginal" provides appear to have taken place off campus - 93% of homicides involving students takes place off campus.

That means that once students step on campus, they are more than 200 times safer - where guns are banned.

If you ban guns from campus, then the students will have to disarm themselves before going to campus and will be disarmed when they are coming from campus.

Now prove that no crimes against students happen to students who are travelling to campus or coming back from campus.

 

[genuineoriginal]

Given that "genuineoriginal" is either unable or unwilling to accept my challenge to provide data for those states that recently allowed students to carry concealed weapons on campus there is no proof to substantiate his claims and absolutely no reason to assume that student access to guns will have a positive impact.

Actually, the lack of data from your side means that there is no proof to substantiate your claims that there is reason to violate the student's rights and strip them of their preferred means of self-defense.

 

[republicanchick]

What Florida really needs is more guns on campus of its going to compete with Louisiana for number 1.

how utterly ridiculous

if women all carried guns, there would be virtually NO rapes

same with all others who are potential victims of morons..


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[resodko]

None of these countries subscribe to the NRA's contention that "arming" private citizens acts as deterent against crime.

Many of the examples that "genuineoriginal" provides appear to have taken place off campus - 93% of homicides involving students takes place off campus.

The fact remains that while the homicide rate for persons ages 17 to 29 in America is 14.1 per 100,000 (2 1/2 times the national rate of 5.7), the homicide rate at post-secondary education institutions/campuses was 0.07 per 100,000.

That means that once students step on campus, they are more than 200 times safer - where guns are banned.

Given that "genuineoriginal" is either unable or unwilling to accept my challenge to provide data for those states that recently allowed students to carry concealed weapons on campus there is no proof to substantiate his claims and absolutely no reason to assume that student access to guns will have a positive impact.

and how many of those countries have a significant black population?


:think: come to think of it, how many universities have a significant black problem?

 

[resodko]

if women all carried guns, there would be virtually NO rapes

well, unless they wanted to rape men

or the lesbians wanted to rape other wimmen