Are the Demons Saved?
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2ephesians8
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immivik said:
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This is right on. All people born of the race of Adam which would be.....ALL people, are born in sin therefore all die. I think it is sentimental and unscrpitural to think that children are not going to be judged. This is one of the many reasons abortion is so hanious.
Sometimes the truth hurts. It is my hope that children, the unborn and those who never heard would be given a opprotunity to chose at some point, but it is only a hope. All I know is that God's ways are not our ways, His thoughts are higher than my thoughts and His ways are higher than my ways. If my intellect could comprehend Him, I probably wouldn't need Him.
2ephesians8
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OlDove said:
You, for starters.... :chuckle:
No, really, ETERNAL DEATH, also known as, SEPARATION FROM GOD FOR ALL ETERNITY.
Are you really asking this question in sincerity? Because if you don't know what it means to be saved, there is no way you can realistically claim to be a Christian.
OlDove
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Ok I admit it. That was just to bump the thread and I didn't have time to think of a word. I don't have time to hang around tonight so G-nite ToL. After I bump this thread one more time.
God, or if I may use the term 'more', or even higher power, a child is born with a tremendous imagination of what it can be. The only way it learns if something is hot is by touching it. So yes in the physical world, there are hot things. Just like there are hard things and soft things. Just like there is the ability to imagine more than the average Jewish person was being told about by their high priests. Ever watch the SpongeBob episode where Patrick and SpongeBob are sitting in a box? Using their imagination, they are having the time of their life. They are expressing grace and the joy of life. That is why when Sqiudward gets in the box, it does not work for him. I see many good intelligent people here who know this. And I know if asked, each would say they got there in a A Way, that is a way. And there is in your imagination in your dreams. In the very land adults are told does not exist. Go into that land in total surrender. Just as a young child is at total surrender. You can fight all the demons you want in this land. If you lose, you don't die, you just wake up. Trust me I have woken up many nights out of dreams, dead tired from the battles within. It became a spiritual warfare to protect the name Jesus. No Wiccan spirit, Native American spirit, no Hindu, Muslim, etc spirit ever had a chance against me. I was lightening fast and could block anything. The second I went to strike, my arms turned to stiff rubber that would barely move. When I surrendered to the spirits I met, and understood they were friends trying to help, that's when I found satan is only a banana in a costume. Go with no fear into your imagination and you will learn wonders. Be a child. Blessings to all and to all a G-nite.
God, or if I may use the term 'more', or even higher power, a child is born with a tremendous imagination of what it can be. The only way it learns if something is hot is by touching it. So yes in the physical world, there are hot things. Just like there are hard things and soft things. Just like there is the ability to imagine more than the average Jewish person was being told about by their high priests. Ever watch the SpongeBob episode where Patrick and SpongeBob are sitting in a box? Using their imagination, they are having the time of their life. They are expressing grace and the joy of life. That is why when Sqiudward gets in the box, it does not work for him. I see many good intelligent people here who know this. And I know if asked, each would say they got there in a A Way, that is a way. And there is in your imagination in your dreams. In the very land adults are told does not exist. Go into that land in total surrender. Just as a young child is at total surrender. You can fight all the demons you want in this land. If you lose, you don't die, you just wake up. Trust me I have woken up many nights out of dreams, dead tired from the battles within. It became a spiritual warfare to protect the name Jesus. No Wiccan spirit, Native American spirit, no Hindu, Muslim, etc spirit ever had a chance against me. I was lightening fast and could block anything. The second I went to strike, my arms turned to stiff rubber that would barely move. When I surrendered to the spirits I met, and understood they were friends trying to help, that's when I found satan is only a banana in a costume. Go with no fear into your imagination and you will learn wonders. Be a child. Blessings to all and to all a G-nite.
2ephesians8
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OlDove said:
That whole Spong-Bob theology thing was ....well..wierd, however...that whole surrender to the spirits thing is what your problem is. I have been involved in Spiritualism. I know what it is all about. It is a phoney religion in that it is not the way to God. It is a distraction and is Demon centered. If you have any knowledge of scripture, you will know that Satanic spirits masquerade as spirits of light and workers of righteousness, but if they will not aknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord and came in the flesh they are not of God. God specifically forbids communicating with the spirit world. I think this is because he knows how gullible we are to these begiling spirits. They seduce us away from the truth, in a kind of frog in slowly heated water kind of way. Pretty soon the water is boiling and the frog is dead. You real need to stop mixing eastern philosophy and religion with Jesus Christ. As well as Frued and Nickleodean.
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Romans 8;38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
I don't have time to do a Bible study for you to show you that all babies 'conceived' as seed of Adam who die before they are aware of right or wrong are covered by the once for all blood of sprinkling on the true Mercy Seat [which True Mercy Seat is the New Creation human body of the LORD Jesus Christ, who is YHWH of hosts, second Person, come in the New Creation human being body forever as our Kinsman-Redeemer/Avenger] but I would like to point you in the direction of a personal Bible Study on the oracles by giving you some thoughts to pursue in a Bible study for yourself, to study up on and follow through with, about the Mercy Seat; and the promise to Adam and all his seed, of the Redeemer who would crush the head [the authority of death and corruption] of the serpent; the Firstborn, and adoption in Him by being first cleansed by that blood of sprinkling.2ephesians8 said:
Calvinism is not biblical in doctrine and has permeated the Church with poison of the serpent, but a return to learning the first principles of the oracles commited to the Jews, only, that teach the truth of Salvation for all in Adam [whosoever will] brings freedom and joy, peace and rest.
First: the oracles teach the plan of salvation by the cleansing of our being by the blood of sprinkling, the adoption, washing, and clothing of our being to make us acceptable to be glorified and a dwelling place for the Father's glory, as Adam was first created to be, and in that restoration to be made priests and kings to minister to YHWH and rule this regenerated creation in Him, the Firstborn, 'come in human flesh'.
Second: the Book of Life was written, already, from the creation of the world, and in that book, each and every single person who was to ever be conceived in Adam was already written and planned as to their bodily parts and the days they would live.
All in Adam were to have been sons of God, dwelling places for the Father's Presence of glory, singly and corporately [as the 'house', called 'Adam'], and in the fall of our firstborn, we fell from that glory which is the state of being called the first death, for which reason we must suffer physical death so that we will not be cursed to live forever, without remedy of being redeemed, in these cursed clay vessels that are of the defiled clay. Physical death is given so that we may be born again in body, if we will be born again in Spirit.
Those who will not be born again in Spirit will live forever in their own resurrected bodies 'in Adam', and be cast aways in the lake of fire forever, which is called the second death of separation forever from the glory and from the Light that now lights every man that comes into the world, in hopes that they may seek Him.
Only those in Adam who are blotted out of the Book of Life for unrepentent sin and blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be cast aways in the lake of fire; and to be blotted out, they must come to an age of accountability and resist the Holy Spirit, personally, who calls each one to know the LORD and leads all on who seek Him who first seeks them.
Babies who have been murdered before they can choose are covered by the blood of sprinkling, and their bodies are of Adam and therefore of Adam's curse, therefore they are also redeemed by the once for all blood of sprinkling, which blood was accepted for our cleansing as a corporate being, called 'Adam' and therefore they will be resurrected, regenerated in body, and also glorified with the presence of the Father's glory. getting one's name blotted out by conscious choice is the only way to be damned, and those who cannot consciously, knowingly, willfully, reject and blaspheme cannot be condemned as they would not have been condemned if the firstborn, from whom we are multiplied, had not fallen.
Also, all in Adam were seed in His loins, just as Levi was seed in Abraham's loins, and therefore paid tithes to Melche, in Abraham; even so; all in Adam were promised the Redeemer in Genesis 3:15, who would crush the authority [the head] of the serpent.
Each and every seed in Adam heard the declaration and therefore heard the promise, of the Redeemer, the Seed of the woman, brother to Adam and therefore Redeemer-Kinsman who had the power, and the will, to ransom the family and ransom the kingdom lost.
The Jews were chosen to teach the truths of the Redemption in the oracles commited to them, though they did not understand the message, and rejected the Messiah as a nation, until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in [to the full harvest as sons of God in the regenerated bodies as priests and kings, in the 'Firstborn'], and learning the truths taught in the signs and symbols, types and shadows, is the only way to understand the plan of redemption, for all 'in Adam' -whosoever will.
Jesus Christ is the Kinsman-Redeemer, who 'marries' -by adoption- all seed in Adam to 'raise up' the sons for glory who were to have been born as godly seed, living sons of God, through Eve, who was called the 'mother of all living' but who never had one single living son of God after the fall of the 'firstborn' 'in Adam', our first father.
Demons who are sons of fallen angels and daughters of Adam were never written in the Book of Life, to come into being in Adam, and have no part in the atonement offered by the YHWH in flesh for His kinsmen -all in Adam, His 'brother' according to the 'created human flesh'.
Genesis 1:26-28
Genesis 3:15
Genesis 5:2
Psalm 8
Psalm 115:16
Malachi 2:15
Luke 3:38
Isaiah 49
Revelation 3:12
Exodus 32:33
Hebrews 5:12
Romans 3:2
All in Adam are chosen to be In Christ, the New Man, and all who choose Him who first chose them are 'made alive' as sons of God, in His image, and all babies and all mental babies who are not able to be accountable, mentally, for their deeds done in the body are covered by His blood of sprinkling on His own body; and the proof is that the LORD split the veil in the temple the moment that blood was accepted which was sprinkled on that body, while it hung on the cross [the true altar of sacrifice] after He departed it, having finished the work He came to do by tasting death on that cross for all 'in Adam' -"every Adam"- of the separation from the Father's presence.
Study the oracles, in the law it is taught that all are covered and none will die the second death for the first father's transgression, but only for their own conscious choices made in their own bodies while they lived in them.
We each get our time of testing in our bodies, if we live to be accountable, and those who are cast aways have no one to blame, not even father Adam, for in the day the secrets of all hearts are openly revealed it will be shown that each and every one was born in that Light that drew them on to know the LORD, and they either personally rejected that light -even if they never knew His name- and so were never given more light to be accountable and more harshly judged for, in the mercy of God, or they sought to know and were drawn on to know His name so they could call upon Him for salvation, and therefore were redeemed by the blood.
I have lots of Scriptures to show these things are so, but if you do your own research, beginning with the oracles, you will know for yourself that the mercy of God is abundant, and freely He has chosen to redeem all in Adam -only those who purposely reject or blaspheme will suffer the vengence of eternal damnation. And rejecting or neglecting that Light gets one a place in the lake of fire with the devil, his angels, and all blasphemers against the Holy Spirit.
Judgment in the everlasting fire, which is the outer darkness and where the blackness of darkness is forever, without remedy, is given according to the deeds done in the body, that one is accountable for. Some have a lower place and more torment there than others, the Word teaches, for judgment is according to the Light one had and acted against.
