Nanja
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The post you quoted contains none else but scriptures.
You are at enmity with God and His Word, not Calvinism.
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Are Calvinists saved?
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The post you quoted contains none else but scriptures.
You are at enmity with God and His Word, not Calvinism.
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They are not saved because they do not have faith in Christ.
Nanja
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So True!
Because God is Holy, so His Love is also Holy, and that's why He only has Love for His Righteous Elect. But He hates the non-elect workers of iniquity Psalm 5:5, and so should those who are in Christ. They also only love whom God Loves.
David expressed this Truth perfectly here:
Psalm 139:19-22
19 Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men.
20 For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain.
21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
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beloved57
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reyjun moncada
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my brief statement is that..there will be no Arminians in heaven...i mean all there will become calvinist even though you are an arminian here in earth..why?..because God chosen some men unto salvation 2thess.2:13..out of every kindred and nation Rev.5:9..
God has chosen all of humanity in his Son Jesus Christ. And then he reconciled all of them unto himself by Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:18,19.
This means that salvation has been provided for everyone, Hebrews 2:9. So that now... "Whosoever that shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.
beloved57
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Romans 10:13 isn't found in the Bible? What Bible do you read out of?
Zeke
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Good observation of a worldly concept called Calvinism, masking it self as some righteous doctrine when its pure religious pride.
Colossians 1:27 KJV -
My post just before you responded in the way that you did also was full of the Testimony of Messiah whose words you denied in your interpretation of what you posted. You thus deny the Testimony of Yeshua and are therefore without Messiah, being alienated from the commonwealth of Israel, and a stranger to the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without Elohim in the world.
:thumb: It is completely carnal thinking which is no different from most of the mainstream. The first typology of Esau was the older Cain who slew his brother. Cain was then sent away to wander in the "land of Nod" which means land of wandering, (the desert). Cain is therefore the scapegoat twin which is sent away to-for Azazel with all the sins upon his mortally wounded head. Esau is likewise called a goat by Yaakob when he says that Esau is "hairy" because the word used in that passage is sa`iyr, which is a shaggy goat, satyr, or devil in some contexts. That is the twin goat that every person must deal with by parting his or her own soul asunder so as to cut off sin from his or her own midst: it is not about a literal individual human being predestined for destruction but rather yet another allegory. Esau is the "old man" sin nature of the natural man with his worldly and fleshly mind, (Esau would sell his birthright for a bowl of soup to feed his belly because his belly is his god). Calvinists, just as most of the mainstream, therefore refuse to judge themselves from within so as to cut off the "old man" sin nature, which is the older twin Esau in typology and allegory, the firstborn nature of man which is the completely carnal minded man. Esau man is to be sent away into the desert with all the sins upon his head because an Atonement is to be made with that goat at a later time, (when he goes into destruction). However he does return before the appointed time, and most of Christianity fails to believe this also, which also comes from the Testimony of Yeshua, and when he returns from the dry-arid desert places he comes with seven other spirits more wicked then himself, (and the last state of the man is worse than the first). And who shall live when God does this? :chuckle:
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Satan does not exist. Satan is only a concept to illustrate the evil inclination in man.
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Like any collection of professing believers, some are indeed saved and some are not.
And for the record, I consider today's contemporary so-called "Arminian" saved until the evidence suggests otherwise.
Do you consider me to be a brother in the faith, BR?
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It's a seriously flawed question.
Men are saved through Jesus Christ. Labels they might adopt for themselves have no part to play.
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reyjun moncada
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then all men without exception will be in the kingdom of God someday? Romans 5:10 "For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life"...that is a confusing theory you have..and that verse also state that salvation is not provided to all men for if it is true then there will be no damnation happen in hell.?.
And another thing how can man do the calling without being first quicken by God spiritually.?read Psalm 80:18-19..
Well, I'm sure Satan would revel in the idea that certain people don't believe he exists?
heir
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No one is saved today apart from trusting the Lord believing 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV.
heir
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Salvation is not dependent on "perfect doctrine" but trusting the Lord believing the gospel of Christ, the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth (Romans 1:16 KJV at that time to the Jew first and also to the Greek, today to all men without distinction 1 Timothy 2:4-6 KJV).
God's will is that all men be saved, AND to come unto the knowledge of the truth (1 Timothy 2:4 KJV): IOW, salvation AND then sound doctrine through study (2 Timothy 2:15 KJV).