I wish I had gotten to meet you while I was in CO, Jo.
Are Abortion Protests Effective?
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Truthtrecker
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Me too!
Jo
Jo
DavesWorldView
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OK Zapp, a solid commentary should always stand tall in the present, past and future. Let's put your comments in the context of 65 years ago to see if you have made a valid argument.
Zapp in 1942: So, unless something drastic happens, the MAJORITY of Jews will follow the line of the Heathen and reject Christ. It follows, then, that a MAJORITY of Jew babies conceived are doomed to grow up in homes where Jesus is rejected, and the Prince of this World is followed [unwittingly], and thus end up thrown into everlasting perdition.... no hope of recovery. Right?
Zapp in 1942: But, if those Jew children are thrown in the Nazi oven, 100% of them will enter into God's loving presence, right??? All those slaughtered through the Nazi ovens will gain instant access to our Father in Heaven, and we will see them there in good time.... whatever time that is.
Is that not our doctrine?
Zapp in 1942: If we truly CARE about the Jews.... do we want to see them cursed to grow up in homes where they are taught to curse God & die?
Sorry Zapp, I don't think your comments have withstood the test of time. Here is something simple to digest: Murder is wrong, murder is always wrong and murder should never be allowed by any government.
Zapp in 1942: So, unless something drastic happens, the MAJORITY of Jews will follow the line of the Heathen and reject Christ. It follows, then, that a MAJORITY of Jew babies conceived are doomed to grow up in homes where Jesus is rejected, and the Prince of this World is followed [unwittingly], and thus end up thrown into everlasting perdition.... no hope of recovery. Right?
Zapp in 1942: But, if those Jew children are thrown in the Nazi oven, 100% of them will enter into God's loving presence, right??? All those slaughtered through the Nazi ovens will gain instant access to our Father in Heaven, and we will see them there in good time.... whatever time that is.
Is that not our doctrine?
Zapp in 1942: If we truly CARE about the Jews.... do we want to see them cursed to grow up in homes where they are taught to curse God & die?
Sorry Zapp, I don't think your comments have withstood the test of time. Here is something simple to digest: Murder is wrong, murder is always wrong and murder should never be allowed by any government.
As a Christian you're a fine one to talk; your religion requires you to anticipate the destruction of two-thirds of the world's Jewry at the hands of the Antichrist. Charming!
Just because the outcome in Germany was sordid is not a refutation of the current conflicted theology.
Lets stick to the issue: Christians of all stripes that take this issue seriously will, in isolation, present both sides of the "Vise" just as I have described it. Prove me wrong.
We proclaim "those babies that are aborted are innocent and go into the Lord's presence", or words to that effect. [where are the catholics btw.... they should be refuting this]
And, is it not a fact that, especially in the Western world, a person growing up in contemporary society has about an 80% if not 90% chance of being heathen, thus condemned not only to an eternal hell, but causing a lot of trouble while on this side.
One is a material-world murder with short-term bad and longterm good if the theology of 'innocence' is factual. The other is short-term dicey and longterm horror.... unending in fact.
Lets stick to the issue: Christians of all stripes that take this issue seriously will, in isolation, present both sides of the "Vise" just as I have described it. Prove me wrong.
We proclaim "those babies that are aborted are innocent and go into the Lord's presence", or words to that effect. [where are the catholics btw.... they should be refuting this]
And, is it not a fact that, especially in the Western world, a person growing up in contemporary society has about an 80% if not 90% chance of being heathen, thus condemned not only to an eternal hell, but causing a lot of trouble while on this side.
One is a material-world murder with short-term bad and longterm good if the theology of 'innocence' is factual. The other is short-term dicey and longterm horror.... unending in fact.
Great points!
regardless of how many of us will beleive and be saved, none of us have the right or authority to take the right of deciding whether we will or not away.
To say that it is better to kill a person in order to improve the odds of thier salvation is no better than being a suicide bomber because it increases favor with
Alah! Not to mention the person making the decision to end the life is not the one making the sacrifice.
To say that it is better to kill a person in order to improve the odds of thier salvation is no better than being a suicide bomber because it increases favor with
Alah! Not to mention the person making the decision to end the life is not the one making the sacrifice.
Good point. Welcome to TOL!
obsolete53
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Jo is right, only a healthy, living, and loving church can end abortion. One big reason there are so few of those, is because almost all churches are worried about, shaking in their boots about, scared to death about losing their sacred 501[c][3] status. They are after all, beholden to, and answerable to the IRS.
The only way we are able to point to something in others is that we have experienced or acted on that very same "something." Jesus tells us to be accountable to the log in our own eye before we talk about the speck of sawdust in someone else's eye.
QueenAtHome
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That is why Damascus Road Bible Fellowship is not a 501 church.
Straight from the get go that we wouldn't be restricted by the government as to what we were going to be permitted to preach.
QueenAtHome
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You don't even know the facts and yet you choose to judge?
Let me check
oly: yep that sounds like hypocrisy
Are you saying that we all have a log (hypocrisy) so we cannot talk about the speck (abortion)?
obsolete53
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I'm glad to hear that, we need hundreds of thousands more churches like yours.
I took the log out of my eye, already.
ok i can see the point of the original post but you cannot force this apon people as it takes away there rights to think freely and you may as well be taking their freedom away while your at it, what im trying to get at is imagine you had somebody hassling you to do something that you really didnt want to do or have to go through with..... its just as bad as peir pressure, eg a school bully is trying to make the weedy kid to throw a egg at the headteacher christians being the bully and whomever the woman may be being the weedy kid.