RobE
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Is there a purpose in
Where did I say differently?
Then how does "And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. ... And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: (Lu 24:44,46)" fit into open theism?
Just as we create our children despite the fact that they will suffer in this life. I certainly would never wish my children hadn't lived just because they would suffer. Our Father did likewise and will, in the end, abolish suffering.
I will now ask you to consider that God decreed creation to exist through action and decreed man's action within it to exist through inaction(allowance).
God decrees His own will.........
1) God is powerful enough to do anything which is possible and it was possible to stop Adam from partaking of the tree. God wouldn't allow something that He didn't desire or will to exist.
2) God decreed man would have free will and would allow man to use it as man wished.
3) God decreed the source of knowledge of good and evil which Adam took of through allowance would be placed in the garden.
4) God decreed through allowance that Lucifer would tempt Eve and deceive her.
5) God decreed through allowance that man would fall.
6) God decreed through allowance that He would die personally to defeat death and lead man into eternity.
And I ask, "Did God decree that He would allow man to sin?"
In other words, was the man's ability to molest and murder an infant decreed by God?
If so, why would God will this?
Rob
godrulz said:We do not create children with the hope and expectation that they will become serial killers and homosexuals.
Where did I say differently?
There is no good purpose in heinous evil.
Then how does "And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. ... And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: (Lu 24:44,46)" fit into open theism?
Sin and suffering and death are enemies and contrary to God's will. He created despite the fact that these things would happen. He has a plan to eventually wipe them out and restore paradise. If they were inherently good and a greater purpose, we would see these things in eternity or from minute one in the garden of Eden.
Just as we create our children despite the fact that they will suffer in this life. I certainly would never wish my children hadn't lived just because they would suffer. Our Father did likewise and will, in the end, abolish suffering.
I will now ask you to consider that God decreed creation to exist through action and decreed man's action within it to exist through inaction(allowance).
God decrees His own will.........
1) God is powerful enough to do anything which is possible and it was possible to stop Adam from partaking of the tree. God wouldn't allow something that He didn't desire or will to exist.
2) God decreed man would have free will and would allow man to use it as man wished.
3) God decreed the source of knowledge of good and evil which Adam took of through allowance would be placed in the garden.
4) God decreed through allowance that Lucifer would tempt Eve and deceive her.
5) God decreed through allowance that man would fall.
6) God decreed through allowance that He would die personally to defeat death and lead man into eternity.
And I ask, "Did God decree that He would allow man to sin?"
In other words, was the man's ability to molest and murder an infant decreed by God?
If so, why would God will this?
Rob