Yea!!! Now we are getting somewhere!
The Edge said:
The stuff I read about his governmental plans, about setting up a theological monarchy,
I have news for you.... a "theological monarchy" is the government of choice when Jesus reigns. When Jesus returns He will not be setting up a democracy.
Theocracies originate from the Bible! The Bible contains the books 1st and 2nd KINGS, I don't recall
the book of presidents.
So.... that being said... what exactly do you have against theocracies?
and immediatly executing not only murderers, but all old testament capital crimes including homosexuality, I don't agree with that because Jesus came to fulfill the law.
He came to fulfill the requirements of the law for Israel He did NOT come to destroy the law.
“ Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill." - Matthew 5:17
P.S. None of this has anything to do with the criminal justice system which God has given to man. For if it did nothing would be illegal! The above is in regard to God's law between Himself and Israel.
Kidnapping illegal?
NO Jesus fulfilled the law!!!
Rape illegal?
NO!!! Jesus fulfilled the law!!!
That isn't very sound logic is it?
But I"m not a left wing liberal. I'm a right winger, and I support both the death penalty
You do???
But... but.... Jesus fulfilled the law!!!
and spanking. God told us to be in submission to the government ordained over us, and that I what I believe we should do. I support the death penalty for murder, because that is what's in the Bible and that's what the US government ordained as legal.
But... but.... Jesus fulfilled the law!!!
"Whoever sheds blood, by man shall his blood be shed." I guess one of my problems is with the homos....they shouldn't be put to death in the first few days. It's a sin, and they can turn from it later in life, as I am sure I told you one of my college friends has.
And a murderer cannot turn from his sin?
Of course he can! You painfully miss the point of a swift death penalty. God demands a swift death penalty so that men are not provoked into that type of sin in the first place.
In other words... when Jesus is ruling over the earth (in the future) men will not become homos and therefore few (if any) will be put to death.
"Because the sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil." Eccl. 8:11
Again, I am not against spanking. My mum says I spank my kid too much....but I don't think it's right to whip someone with a belt and make welts.
I honestly do not believe you can spank without leaving at least some redness. I tend to think you are grasping at straws here. I can tell you this.... by your standards my father was a child abuser.
Whether the skin was truely broken or not, someone thought this was severe enough to press charges, and we shouldn't subject ourselves to that kind of questioning as Christians. My spanks hurt but they don't injure my boy. And another major reason I am against Bob Enyart is because I came on this board and just tried to be a friendly guy, and a Bob supporter has singlehandely come out and publically attacked me for no reason at all, and then used Enyart's writings to back themselves up. I can't agree with a Christian who thinks that is ok.
No reason at all???? Come on Edge you are a big boy. There should be no reason to pout and feel sorry for yourself, you have admitted yourself you were attempting to rebuke Erin so it isn't as if your opposition was unwarranted.
That, in a nutshell, is why I disagree with Bob Enyart. And no Bob supporters are willing to say "Bob may be going about it wrong" and just continue to attack me.
What makes you think any Bob Enyart supporters think Bob is "going about it wrong" in the first place? You can't just assume that you are correct in your analysis and assume that your opposition is wrong.
Maybe.... just maybe... you are the one in error and have wrongly judged a pastor and father without having any idea as to what really happened.
Well I don't care anymore. If you all don't like me, I don't care.
Spare me the drama. :baby:
I don't see a problem with his fundamental theology, but I disagree with his harsh, confrontational, insulting style,
Do you disagree with Jesus confrontational style? How about John the baptist? And what about the apostle Paul?
Do you disagree with....
1Timothy 5:20
Those who are sinning rebuke in the presence of all, that the rest also may fear.
2Timothy 4:2 Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince,
rebuke, exhort,
with all longsuffering and teaching.
Titus 1:13 This testimony is true.
Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith,
his constant seeking of media attention for his protests, his spanking a boy that wasn't even his at the time to the point of a trial, and his radical governmental views. I can't back it up except with the Scripture where Jesus says not to go out on the streetcorners and pray with many words and showing everyone you are fasting as a public display, which in my opinion Enyart does by seeking so much media attention.
If you all hate me that's fine. That's how I feel, and I stick to it.
:baby: Come Edge... man up!
If you are going to make outlandish accusations you best be prepared to defend yourself. You know the old saying..... don't show up to a gun fight with a knife. Or in this case... if you are going to dish it out you best be prepared to take it as well.
