Anybody know much about Islam?

Lon

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"Average everyday run-of-the-mill" Muslims in Muslim run countries:
Be better informed, these are 'average' everyday run-o-the-mill Muslims doing this very 'normal' business as usual as well as ISIS/extremists. Difference? They weren't all killed, didn't all see justice, didn't all escape prison for simply 'being' Christian. When Christians are being slaughtered, imprisoned, fined, abused, and in every way oppressed, you can't call that confirmation bias.

Take this challenge: Read just one story about a Christian, right now, in prison, and follow that person and pray for them, in a Muslim cell, either until they are released, or are dead. Notice that it is the 'normal everyday' Muslim and government that supports their incarceration and most often, death sentence, if they are indigenous. These are the normal everyday, run-of-the-mill Muslims, when they own and are in control of a country.
EVERY country run by 'every day, average, run-of-the-mill' Muslims imprisons and/or kills Christian converts. Those who stand up to ISIS , their own governments, and most of their own Muslim people, are few and far between. EVERY Muslim run country kills/persecutes Christians. "Not if you don't proselytize or change!" "Yep, no free-speech and no freedom of religion. Islam is NOT tolerant and is NOT a religion of peace nor ever claims to be. Anyone saying anything else is a liar or simply a dictator "not as long as you don't oppose me or my intolerant-superior religion."
 

egyptianmuslim

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Christianity is intolerant belief because they say that Jesus is the only way to God.
But Islam is tolerant because they believe that monotheism is the only way to God.
 

drbrumley

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Christianity is intolerant belief because they say that Jesus is the only way to God.
But Islam is tolerant because they believe that monotheism is the only way to God.

And without controversy, great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory (1 Timothy 3:16).
 

drbrumley

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Christianity is intolerant belief because they say that Jesus is the only way to God.
But Islam is tolerant because they believe that monotheism is the only way to God.

Accepting a creed without examination and genuine conviction, is not just blind faith. It is like jumping from the frying pan to a roaring fire. Unfortunately, our Muslim friends are in that exact position. Their ancestors were forced to embrace Islam at the point of the sword. Today, over 90% of the people in Islam were born into it and were then brain-washed through al-majirin (the local Islamic school indoctrination system). Through that system, they are given an anti-Gospel vaccination. They are nurtured from infancy with the idea that Christians worship three gods while they worship only one, Allah. Muslims accept this idea without further examination.
 

egyptianmuslim

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Accepting a creed without examination and genuine conviction, is not just blind faith. It is like jumping from the frying pan to a roaring fire. Unfortunately, our Muslim friends are in that exact position. Their ancestors were forced to embrace Islam at the point of the sword. Today, over 90% of the people in Islam were born into it and were then brain-washed through al-majirin (the local Islamic school indoctrination system). Through that system, they are given an anti-Gospel vaccination. They are nurtured from infancy with the idea that Christians worship three gods while they worship only one, Allah. Muslims accept this idea without further examination.
The problem is ignorance of Quran or Islam , this due to the behaviour of some Muslims
that give the way to nonmuslims to deform Islam.

It is a great sin to make a mediator between God and His believer/muslim and we have no bishops to obey them blindly .

And they will say, "Our Lord, indeed we obeyed our masters and our dignitaries, and they led us astray from the
way.
[Quran 33 : 67 ]
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Is Jesus a mediator to God or not?​
 

Lon

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Christianity is intolerant belief because they say that Jesus is the only way to God.
But Islam is tolerant because they believe that monotheism is the only way to God.

:nono: You can be a muslim who is free to practice his/her religion among Christians in America. You cannot be a Christian in a Muslim country and talk about your faith without going to prison and having your life forfeit. Contrasts, I love them.
 

exminister

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And We had certainly sent to Thamud their brother Salih, [saying], "Worship Allah," and at once they were two parties conflicting.
[Quran 27 : 45 ]


And We certainly sent into every nation a messenger, [saying], "Worship Allah and avoid Taghut." And among them were those whom Allah guided, and among them were those upon whom error was [deservedly] decreed. So proceed through the earth and observe how was the end of the deniers.
[Quran 16 : 36 ]

Who is Salih? And what's with the conflict? Is this always religions starting point?

What is Taghut? Why should it be avoided?
 

egyptianmuslim

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Who is Salih? And what's with the conflict? Is this always religions starting point?

What is Taghut? Why should it be avoided?
God sent messengers in the time between Noah and Abraham to pagans/idolaters to tell their folks to worship God the One , Saleh is one of them. Muslims believe that the numbers of God's messengers to human are more than those mentioned in Bible and Quran.


And We have already sent messengers before you. Among them are those [whose stories] We have related to you, and among them are those [whose stories] We have not related to you. And it was not for any messenger to bring a sign [or verse] except by permission of Allah. So when the command of Allah comes, it will be concluded in truth, and the falsifiers will thereupon lose [all].
[Quran 40 : 78 ]


Taghut is the Satan and his work
 

egyptianmuslim

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:nono: You can be a muslim who is free to practice his/her religion among Christians in America. You cannot be a Christian in a Muslim country and talk about your faith without going to prison and having your life forfeit. Contrasts, I love them.
Thanks to America , it is not against Islam.
Egyptian christians are more than ten millions they have their own churches we muslims love and respect him because they are good people. The problem is between radical groups in both sides , the Islamic radical group is greatly defeated.
 

Apple7

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Thanks to America , it is not against Islam.
Egyptian christians are more than ten millions they have their own churches we muslims love and respect him because they are good people. The problem is between radical groups in both sides , the Islamic radical group is greatly defeated.


Scripture informs the reader that the real war is spiritual, not physical.

Therefore, since ALL Muslims deny Jesus' deity, ALL Muslims are the spiritual enemy of the Christian.
 

egyptianmuslim

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Scripture informs the reader that the real war is spiritual, not physical.

Therefore, since ALL Muslims deny Jesus' deity, ALL Muslims are the spiritual enemy of the Christian.
Electronic war.


Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.
[Quran 2 : 190 ]
 

patrick jane

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Banned
Electronic war.


Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.
[Quran 2 : 190 ]

That is why God sent His only Son to reconcile all and to save us. Jesus Christ died for your sins and rose the third day according to the scriptures written in the Old Testament. I am no longer a transgressor like muslims are
 

Apple7

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Electronic war.


Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.
[Quran 2 : 190 ]

Your Koran...


كالمهل يغلي في البطون

Kaalmuhli yaghlee fee albutooni

44.45 Like the molten lead boils in the bellies.



وطعاما ذا غصة وعذابا أليما

WataAAaman tha ghussatin waAAathaban aleeman

73.13 And food that sticks in the throat and his painful punishment.
 

Lon

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Thanks to America , it is not against Islam.
Egyptian christians are more than ten millions they have their own churches we muslims love and respect him because they are good people. The problem is between radical groups in both sides , the Islamic radical group is greatly defeated.
Again, if Muslims ever are in charge of government (including Dubai), it is illegal for Christians to talk about their faith. Not so in America. These are not 'extremist' Muslims in Dubai or Iran, these are the average everyday Muslims and they will not tolerate or allow people to carry their own faith. It is illegal to deconvert from Islam in these countries. Even 'if' Christianity were wrong, our two great commands are to love God and love others as ourselves. Islam does not do the second great command. You are to hate your enemies and do bad to them. We are to love our enemies, pray for them, and do good to them. Why? Because our God is not powerless, He listens to prayer and changes hearts. You Muslims have a god who must use you or cannot get the job done. Worse? He doesn't care about love, he cares about conquering. So, even if the Christian god didn't exist, he is a better god than your's. I 'think' that the God we are both supposed to be following is a God of love. Which god actually exists? If God is a God of Love, which faith serves him? Look again to contrasts. No Muslim is in jail in the U.S. for his/her faith. Not true the Christian in a Muslim state.
 
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