Angels in Heaven Have a Free Will

Robert Pate

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Your "had free will" is key here, Robert. All angels when created possessed free will. The one-third or so failed their probationary period and are irrevocably damned. Unlike mankind, there is no redemptive plan for these angels.

Just as Adam "had free will" before falling and plunging all his progeny into sin. Original sin both as corruption stemming from our first father (Adam) and as an imputation of Adam's sin. Imputation means to "count as" or "to be reckoned as." So this view of original sin would say that Adam's sin is counted against us as if we had done it ourselves. The guilt of Adam's sin is counted as our own guilt, and we can be punished for it.

The unbeliever can only sin more or sin less and possesses no ability to do otherwise until God replaces their heart of stone with one of flesh. So yes, one may say, the unbeliever has free will, if one understands free will to mean choosing according to one's greatest inclinations at the moment one so chooses.

AMR

The angels in heaven still have a free will. They are the ones that chose not to rebel against God.

The Bible knows nothing of anyone receiving the Holy Spirit without hearing and believing the Gospel. God does not zap people with the Spirit. You have to hear and believe.

"So then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God" Romans 10:17, Which is the Gospel.
 

disturbo

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My God created men to do evil and then hold them accountable for it! They had no choice in the matter!

I would prefer to say that God created the propensity for evil.

Here's a hyper-theoretical question for you.

1. Do you think we are the only planet in the entire 'solar system' that has people on it?

2. Do you think that we are the only planet in the entire 'galaxy' that has people on it?

3. Do you think we are the only planet in the 'universe' that has people on it?

If YES to any above...

1. Do you think that any other planet inhabited with 'creatures' that God has made are human or just like us?

2. Do you think that another planet with 'people' on it may NOT have fallen?
 

beloved57

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I would prefer to say that God created the propensity for evil.

Here's a hyper-theoretical question for you.

1. Do you think we are the only planet in the entire 'solar system' that has people on it?

2. Do you think that we are the only planet in the entire 'galaxy' that has people on it?

3. Do you think we are the only planet in the 'universe' that has people on it?

If YES to any above...

1. Do you think that any other planet inhabited with 'creatures' that God has made are human or just like us?

2. Do you think that another planet with 'people' on it may NOT have fallen?

God Created Evil,that is where the propensity comes from also!
 

beloved57

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The angels in heaven still have a free will. They are the ones that chose not to rebel against God.

The Bible knows nothing of anyone receiving the Holy Spirit without hearing and believing the Gospel. God does not zap people with the Spirit. You have to hear and believe.

"So then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God" Romans 10:17, Which is the Gospel.

Invalid comment not supported by scripture!
 

disturbo

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Invalid comment not supported by scripture!

Invalid? Now that's impressive!

Angels have personalities, emotions, and intelligence. They are called 'holy angels'. Angels that didn't fall are called 'elect' just as CHRISTIANS are. But that doesn’t mean that angels have lost their free will.
Jesus had free will and he too could have eaten of the forbidden fruit!
 

beloved57

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Invalid? Now that's impressive!

Angels have personalities, emotions, and intelligence. They are called 'holy angels'. Angels that didn't fall are called 'elect' just as CHRISTIANS are. But that doesn’t mean that angels have lost their free will.

Yeah!
 
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