Alt-righter plows into crowd of anti-racists in Charlottesville

[drbrumley]

German and Italian fascism, and Soviet socialism, all denounced and denied the legitimacy of states’ rights or what Americans call “federalism” while advocating* an all-powerful, totally centralized state.* “We demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich,” the Nazi 25-Point program screeched.

 

[drbrumley]

Twentieth-century fascism also of course included militarism and anti-Semitism, the latter because the German national socialists declared that the Jews of Europe were symbols of the hated system of capitalism that they wanted to destroy.* The Nazis eerily denounced the “Jewish materialistic spirit” in their “25-Point Program.

So, freshman class of 2017, keep these things in mind and you will not be bamboozled by all your left-wing professors who themselves do not even understand that the socialist ideas which they espouse and preach in class were also warmly embraced by all of the evil twentieth-century fascists.* The only real difference between the German and Russian socialists of the twentieth century was that the Germans called themselves national socialists, whereas the Russian socialists called themselves international socialists.

 

[drbrumley]

Good day!

 

[Town Heretic]

So that leaves left/right. You still didn't give your definition, though. Could you do that?

Not without a strong reason. :chuckle: I think it varies by particular: government, economic, religious. As a general philosophical approach:

The right favors the defense of tradition in the face of external forces for change. Beyond that is the idea that the individual is best served by the least intrusion into his life by government. The left generally advances alterations of those norms and favors a stronger role for government in the life of the individual. It's really a foundationally different set of assumptions for what best serves us, individually and collectively.

The fact that there are many Christians on the left doesn't mean they believe in absolutes.

I don't see how not. The moment you believe in God you believe in an absolute. I suspect the difference is more exegesis than foundation.

To be sure, I understand what you mean when you say that right/left is not a religious tenet. We agree. But politics must always be on top of a worldview and it can never be the other way around.

I think that's true.

BTW, how do you interpret Ecc 10:2? What did God mean when He put that in the bible?

I like Barnes reading, "A wise man's sense is in its place, ready to help and protect him; but a fool's sense is missing when it is wanted, and so is useless." Gills does a more thorough job of it.

 

[patrick jane]

Town, Brain and anna know that the left is pure evil

 

[Tambora]

Town, Brain and anna know that the left is pure evil

The left:

 

[Tambora]

Need more fire hoses.

 

[Tambora]

Who is running Berkley, and why can't they protect free speech?

 

[randomvim]

Why would he go to Berkeley, except to make trouble?



I agree.

If anyone disagrees with a person going to any one place or another should disregard and ignore that person. do not seek them out. do not attack them.

but some forget the montra, "hands up"

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[annabenedetti]

The left:

If "the left" means antifa to rightists, then they shouldn't be surprised when "the right" means Nazis to leftists.

I happen to disagree with both those broad-brush characterizations.

 

[randomvim]

Who is running Berkley, and why can't they protect free speech?

The mayor of Berkeley has been recorded promoting a behavior to banish unliked groups from his city.

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[ClimateSanity]

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/why-the-left-cant-let-go-of-racism-1503868512

 

[ClimateSanity]

And "just doing what I was told" has really worked out well for all sorts of people claiming the moral or legal high-ground, historically.

If you cannot do what you are told for moral reasons, you need to work somewhere else.

 

[Town Heretic]

Town, Brain and anna know that the left is pure evil

You should stick to saying silly things for yourself. That's entertaining enough, don't you think?

If you cannot do what you are told for moral reasons, you need to work somewhere else.

Son of a gun, we agree. That or you can say no, make a statement that way and take your lumps.

 

[fool]

They might not be your kind of conservatives, but they're backing the candidates and causes of the right. I'm not painting it, they are. And you're not answering on it.

I'll answer on it.
Yes, the Ven Diagram with Conservative voters and People who fly Confederate flags and Neo Nazis have a lot of overlap.
What of it?

 

[fool]

They might not be your kind of conservatives, but they're backing the candidates and causes of the right. I'm not painting it, they are. And you're not answering on it.

I'll answer on it.
Yes, the Ven Diagram with Conservative voters and People who fly Confederate flags and Neo Nazis have a lot of overlap.
What of it?

 

[ClimateSanity]

You should stick to saying silly things for yourself. That's entertaining enough, don't you think?



Son of a gun, we agree. That or you can say no, make a statement that way and take your lumps.

But don't complain over your lumps. Also, if the hosers were not breaking the law, we have no right to condemn them for following the law. If the law is immoral, you can praise those who refuse to obey it, but you cannot judge them if they do obey because hindsight reveals that whole society was racially immoral. Never judge a person for simply living out the morality of his society. That's why I don't condemn the cops who were hosing the black protestors. That doesn't mean I think they were right morally either.

 

[Tambora]

I'll answer on it.
Yes, the Ven Diagram with Conservative voters and People who fly Confederate flags and Neo Nazis have a lot of overlap.
What of it?

opcorn:

 

[Tambora]

I'll answer on it.
Yes, the Ven Diagram with Conservative voters and People who fly Confederate flags and Neo Nazis have a lot of overlap.
What of it?

opcorn:

 

[Tambora]

They might not be your kind of conservatives, but they're backing the candidates and causes of the right.

YAY!