Advice for Kim in Kentucky

1Mind1Spirit

Literal lunatic
By the horrible principal of democratic rule: that the majority of the court's justices determined it should be so. If you really hate democracy this much, perhaps you should become a citizen of some other country, where democratic principals are ignored. Of course, they may not accept your divine rule, there, either.


Democratic principle does not allow the judicial branch to pass laws.

:freak:
 

Ktoyou

Well-known member
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now we have a culture which is trying to leverage anything it can against these beliefs. So the 1.5% is to be treated identically to the 98.5%. This will not change without a disaster that makes people take stock.



Kim in Kentucky should resign on the basis of the realization of this, not try to continue in that confused context. If she makes her announcement on this basis, she won't be jeered at so much, and she will have the opportunity to validate the cluster or suite of concepts which reinforce marriage. ...

One of secularism's tactics is to ridicule one item by itself. A

It may be hard for advise anyone to give up their career. Even though, in doing so, does demonstrate disapproval. If true, only a small percentage are behind this, then the rest is not responding according to the numerical advantage. We may let the state do what we dislike, though the state cannot make us approve what the few desire. The act itself, exposes them, and once exposed, there may be a fallout effect from the act disapproved, where this small wayward group could be driven to the periphery, without violence, and without vocal disapproval, only with a 98 percent to persist, thus causing these to move out of sight.
 

PureX

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Democratic principle does not allow the judicial branch to pass laws.

:freak:
They aren't passing any laws. They are simply interpreting the laws that have been passed and determining their constitutionality. But whenever you don't like their decisions, you cry and whine that they're "passing laws".

Grow up.
 

PureX

Well-known member
It may be hard for advise anyone to give up their career. Even though, in doing so, does demonstrate disapproval. If true, only a small percentage are behind this, then the rest is not responding according to the numerical advantage. We may let the state do what we dislike, though the state cannot make us approve what the few desire. The act itself, exposes them, and once exposed, there may be a fallout effect from the act disapproved, where this small wayward group could be driven to the periphery, without violence, and without vocal disapproval, only with a 98 percent to persist, thus causing these to move out of sight.
When you find yourself living in a country that disagrees with you about fundamental rights and freedoms, you ARE the "odd man out". Accept it for what it is and either leave, or learn to live with it.

I don't understand this insane presumption that the entire nation is supposed to find a way to accommodate your beliefs, when the vast majority of people in the country don't believe what you believe. That's not rational. And it's not going to happen.
 

1Mind1Spirit

Literal lunatic
They aren't passing any laws. They are simply interpreting the laws that have been passed and determining their constitutionality. But whenever you don't like their decisions, you cry and whine that they're "passing laws".

Grow up.

The only way the judicial branch has any say, is on how an individual is prosecuted in court in violation of a law.



PERIOD.
 

Dialogos

Well-known member
Pair-bonding is not a "belief", it's a universal human behavior.
What world do you live in?

:idunno:

Sex is almost a universal human behavior but I can point to the B in LGBT, the growing prominence of polysexuality and the longstanding prevalence of bigamy in many societies currently and throughout history to prove that you are simply, and demonstrably wrong.

Hisservant has pointed this out to you and your responses have been less than convincing.

And that's not the only thing you are clearly wrong about in this thread.

PureX said:
In the end this will be a good thing,
In the end, jailing someone because of their religious belief is a good thing how again?

PureX said:
...because it will force communities to set guidelines for these clerks so they can be fired when they don't follow them.
She's an elected official. And she offered to allow the licenses to be issued insofar as her name did not appear on them. Judge Bunning (who is behaving like a fascist judicial tyrant) did not see this as a suitable compromise and unlawfully imprisoned her.

PureX said:
Sadly, people these days don't understand or respect their responsibility to their communities unless they are written down and enforced by law.
Her responsibility was to uphold KY law which actually contradicts the Supreme Court ruling. She is not being imprisoned for failure to follow her oath (which congressmen, our president, and federal court judges do all the time without being carted away in handcuffs), she is being unlawfully imprisoned for following the law as it read when she took the oath.

Secondly, her community has nothing to do with this. The Supreme Court took it upon itself to disregard the separation of powers inherent in the Constitution and wrote a law for all 50 states legalizing same sex marriage. Her community didn't decide this, 9 (actually 5 of the 9) Justices did.

Which speaks to your statement below:

PureX said:
By the horrible principal of democratic rule: that the majority of the court's justices determined it should be so. If you really hate democracy this much, perhaps you should become a citizen of some other country, where democratic principals are ignored. Of course, they may not accept your divine rule, there, either.
What are you talking about!???

Democracy is not 9 people ruling a country, that's an oligarchy. Democracy would be allowing each state to decide the issue on the basis of the will of the people.

Kim Davis defied the oligarchs, and so she has become a political prisoner because she refuses to bend her will to the will of the Supreme Court oligarchy and its judicial Prefect, Judge Bunning (who is acting like a fascist judicial tyrant), who would not allow her to remove her name from the licenses. Until she consents to allow those licenses to be issued with her name on them the judge will keep her a political prisoner.

Judge Bunning should be impeached and publicly removed for his shameful disregard for constitutionally guaranteed rights. His actions are deplorable, he has torn the fabric of freedom of our country.
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
why is this a secret?

so it looks like this could have been handled in way that would have accommodated her religious beliefs and allowed the perverts to have their way

I wonder why that wasn't good enough.


Perhaps fool can come along and tell us how not having Davis' name on the certificate would have "picked their pocket" or "broke their leg"
 

Interplanner

Well-known member
What world do you live in?

:idunno:

Sex is almost a universal human behavior but I can point to the B in LGBT, the growing prominence of polysexuality and the longstanding prevalence of bigamy in many societies currently and throughout history to prove that you are simply, and demonstrably wrong.

Hisservant has pointed this out to you and your responses have been less than convincing.

And that's not the only thing you are clearly wrong about in this thread.


In the end, jailing someone because of their religious belief is a good thing how again?


She's an elected official. And she offered to allow the licenses to be issued insofar as her name did not appear on them. Judge Bunning (who is behaving like a fascist judicial tyrant) did not see this as a suitable compromise and unlawfully imprisoned her.


Her responsibility was to uphold KY law which actually contradicts the Supreme Court ruling. She is not being imprisoned for failure to follow her oath (which congressmen, our president, and federal court judges do all the time without being carted away in handcuffs), she is being unlawfully imprisoned for following the law as it read when she took the oath.

Secondly, her community has nothing to do with this. The Supreme Court took it upon itself to disregard the separation of powers inherent in the Constitution and wrote a law for all 50 states legalizing same sex marriage. Her community didn't decide this, 9 (actually 5 of the 9) Justices did.

Which speaks to your statement below:


What are you talking about!???

Democracy is not 9 people ruling a country, that's an oligarchy. Democracy would be allowing each state to decide the issue on the basis of the will of the people.

Kim Davis defied the oligarchs, and so she has become a political prisoner because she refuses to bend her will to the will of the Supreme Court oligarchy and its judicial Prefect, Judge Bunning (who is acting like a fascist judicial tyrant), who would not allow her to remove her name from the licenses. Until she consents to allow those licenses to be issued with her name on them the judge will keep her a political prisoner.

Judge Bunning should be impeached and publicly removed for his shameful disregard for constitutionally guaranteed rights. His actions are deplorable, he has torn the fabric of freedom of our country.


For the same reason, Obama should be in prison, Hillary, the mayor of SF and the 2 judges who approved of SS marriage in CA against the vote of the people. We shouldn't be ruled by 1.5% but there is something so "right" about homosexuality that they manage to overthrow everything about the American system, whereas if it was a historic belief, it would be considered "imposing" to retain it.
 
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