Originally posted by Sozo
It is impossible to be a Christian and believe that salvation can be lost or forfeited.
Originally posted by godrulz
Who else here thinks that OSAS is a condition of salvation rather than faith in Christ alone?
You have a serious problem with understanding simple statements. You turned what I said into a condition. I never said that, and what I said does not even imply that. Someone who is in Christ will know the truth. Someone who is in Christ will know that they are a child of God.
"The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God"
No child of God will believe what is contrary to the truth regarding salvation, that does not make it a "condition" to be saved, but the result of being saved.
Everything is a work to you, godrulz. You don't believe that anyone has the truth, and so you wander aimlessly collecting religious jargon, cliches, and philosophical fables to fill your empty life.
You can hide behind all your religious babbling to everyone else here, but I am more than aware of the fact that it is all a facade. You don't fool me, and you don't fool God. No matter how much you try and convince others that you are in the faith, you will still hear those painful words... "I NEVER KNEW YOU"!
I personally feel it is more biblical to affirm that truth in addition to the other possibility that someone who once was an unbeliever came to faith and then regressed back to unbelief (Hebrews).
More evidence of the fact that the Holy Spirit does not dwell in you...
I will post this for others, because you will deny the truth anyway.
The book of Hebrews is a letter to Hebrews. Why? Because the Hebrews had a history with God. They had experienced all that God is, and had been entrusted with the oracles of God, experienced the reality of the Holy Spirit, the power of God, and the writer is telling them that all of what God has done through them culminated in the person of Christ. However, the writer of Hebrews is warning them of the danger of not going where God has taken them. They must enter into His rest. They must accept that Jesus is the reality, and not the things that they still hold to.
You would be wise, godrulz, to take the advice to put aside the things that God was doing through the Jews, and to come to Christ. Instead, you have adopted what God was doing through the Jews, and have added it to Christ. Hebrews 6 is speaking directly to those who teach what you teach. You teach ongoing repentance, and have reduced the blood of Jesus to that of a bull or goat.