9/11 Conspiracies

[SaulToPaul 2]

I was going by what they said in Loose Change, I can't know the facts

Yeah, what are the odds that the official story from the government is the absolute truth?
There are some things that do not add up. I'd like to know the entire truth, but I'm sure I never will.

 

[Zeke]

No, with Elvis!

No it was Jesus.

 

[Zeke]

and marilyn! :banana:

Or better yet a indoctrinated trans human zombie like you,nick and Jerry who never read a Roman lie you didn't swallow like Linda lovelace.

 

[glorydaz]

I've seen planes fall apart from hitting things much less solid than steel.
I am not sure how those planes just disappeared into a steel building with no wreckage on the outside.

Impact. Like one sword slicing through another sword. We watched it happen.

 

[glorydaz]

Or better yet a indoctrinated trans human zombie like you,nick and Jerry who never read a Roman lie you didn't swallow like Linda lovelace.

That's crude!

 

[glorydaz]

There's no there there!

I agree. What we saw was a horrible attack. That's it.

 

[glorydaz]

Plus, there was no plane debris at Shanksville

There was debris.

 

[Nihilo]

I've recently taken an interest in this topic, but I haven't formulated any definite opinions.
I'm curious what other TOLers think. :idunno:

Did anybody before 9/11 know that the towers would collapse like a controlled demolition if hit by an airliner full of fuel? Besides Al Qaeda I mean, because they obviously did.

 

[glorydaz]

Did anybody before 9/11 know that the towers would collapse like a controlled demolition if hit by an airliner full of fuel? Besides Al Qaeda I mean, because they obviously did.

I'm sure no one ever considered the possibility. And I'm not so sure Al Qaeda knew that either.

Their goal was to use our own planes to crash into various targets. That the towers came down couldn't have been foreseen by anyone, I would think.

 

[Nick M]

I was going by what they said in Loose Change, I can't know the facts

Are you going to acknowledge those facts?

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Impact. Like one sword slicing through another sword. We watched it happen.

I would think the aluminum would get the brunt of the damage, not the concrete and steel.

 

[ok doser]

I would think the aluminum would get the brunt of the damage, not the concrete and steel.

weren't you just wondering why the plane dint come out the other side?

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

weren't you just wondering why the plane dint come out the other side?

Nah, I was wondering how it appeared to come out the other side, with the nose unharmed.

 

[ok doser]

Did anybody before 9/11 know that the towers would collapse like a controlled demolition if hit by an airliner full of fuel? Besides Al Qaeda I mean, because they obviously did.

no, i think the mooslims were as surprised as anybody that the buildings came down

and architectural engineers consider risks based on their likelihood of occurring - they design for hurricane force winds, not meteor strikes

 

[ok doser]

Nah, I was wondering how it appeared to come out the other side, with the nose unharmed.

i think that was probably vaporized aluminum


and office worker bits

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

i think that was probably vaporized aluminum


and office worker bits

Wonder what would happen if a large aluminum bus going 100 mph ran into a thick concrete wall supported by a couple of steel beams?

 

[ok doser]

ke = 1/2mv2

you're off by a factor of 25 on the velocity component

and a factor of 40 on the mass

not to mention the difference in fuel volume

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

ke = mv2

you're off by a factor of 25 on the velocity component

and a factor of 40 on the mass

not to mention the difference in fuel volume

I know.

But what do you think would happen?

 

[Nick M]

Wonder what would happen if a large aluminum bus going 100 mph ran into a thick concrete wall supported by a couple of steel beams?

That momentum is nowhere near what the planes momentum was.

 

[Nick M]

I know.

But what do you think would happen?

A lot of damage.