30 Days, A beginning to the end of mass shootings.

[quip]

Notice that the moron thinks we want revenge

Please spin it for us doser...give it a good whirl!

 

[ok doser]

I could care less.

:doh:


Ok, it's official

You're a moron

 

[quip]

I always find these threads very interesting. The socialists have been working at destroying Biblical morality since the 1800s. Now they make claims as to superior morality and decision making. Murderers need to be protected because, well, it's not nice to execute anyone, no matter what they have ever done. Oh, the claims to the moral high ground that come from those most responsible for removing morality from society.

They do this in every aspect of morality and crime. The thief should never be punished by his victim. The parents should never punish those who destroy the lives of their children. It's just not fair to punish those whom society has "abandoned". Well, who abandoned moral training? The same ones who argue those most affected by their own lack of moral training shouldn't be punished in any meaningful manner. By meaningful manner I mean punishment swiftly meted out and harsh enough to discourage others from following the criminal's example. Oh, the horror of that. It's so unkind and punishment never works. Riiiggghhht. No child on earth has ever benefited by being disciplined consistently by the child's parents.

The socialists deny even parents the right to discipline their own children because, well, the state should be the only one to discipline anyone. Right. The corrupt, easily bought off judges, prosecutors, police, politicians, etc... should be the ones who decide all moral issues and punishments. Someone outside the family who has no knowledge of what goes on every day should be the ones making the decisions. It's ludicrous but yet the socialists claim that is by far the best solution because, you know, parents might actually work to instill Biblical principles into the lives of their children. Oh, what a horror that would be. Decent, highly moral, law abiding citizens would destroy the calls for more surveillance, more controls on citizens, the removal of rights, etc.... That's why morality has been under constant attack for many decades. Moral people do not need to be controlled by an external force. They control themselves. That is a horror to the socialists in their search for absolute power.

Nice rant....that has nothing to do with Due Process.

 

[Stripe]

I'd rather you sit in your 6 x 6 cell and slowly rot away from the inside.

You can rot away anywhere you like. :idunno:

No answer to the question, we note.

 

[JudgeRightly]

I'd rather you sit in your 6 x 6 cell and slowly rot away from the inside.

Can YOU guess why?

Because you as a tax payer like paying for the government to feed, clothe, medicate, educate, entertain, legally represent, for an arbitrary amount of time usually numbering in the tens of years, the one who committed a crime?

Seems to me like you're a glutton for punishment, quip.

Seems to me that treating people like animals tends to make them act like animals.

So let's not treat people like animals, and punish criminals like a civilized society would, by executing, corporally punishing, or making them pay restitution.

 

[ok doser]

I'd rather you sit in your 6 x 6 cell and slowly rot away from the inside.

Can YOU guess why?

Revenge?

 

[quip]

Because you as a tax payer like paying for the government to feed, clothe, medicate, educate, entertain, legally represent, for an arbitrary amount of time usually numbering in the tens of years, the one who committed a crime?

Seems to me like you're a glutton for punishment, quip.

Seems to me that treating people like animals tends to make them act like animals.

So let's not treat people like animals, and punish criminals like a civilized society would, by executing, corporally punishing, or making them pay restitution.

That's your argument for redacting Due Process from the Bill Of Rights?

Good luck with that.

 

[ok doser]

Nice rant....that has nothing to do with Due Process.

Does the Constitution put a minimum time limit on due process?

 

[quip]

Revenge?

Nah...that would take too long. Not enough immediate gratification that an expedient lynching would produce...correct?

 

[quip]

Does the Constitution put a minimum time limit on due process?

What did'ya have in mind dozer... giving the shooter 5 mins.before hanging him high!

 

[JudgeRightly]

That's your argument for redacting Due Process from the Bill Of Rights?

Good luck with that.

Who said anything about redacting it?

Due process is defined as:

1: a course of formal proceedings (such as legal proceedings) carried out regularly and in accordance with established rules and principles
— called also procedural due process

2: a judicial requirement that enacted laws may not contain provisions that result in the unfair, arbitrary, or unreasonable treatment of an individual

- Merriam-Webster

In what way is executing criminals convicted of capital punishments within 24 hours of conviction an elimination of due process?

In what is trying and convicting someone of a crime (given two or three witnesses that establish the matter) within 48 of the criminal being caught an elimination of due process?

 

[JudgeRightly]

What did'ya have in mind dozer... giving the shooter 5 mins.before hanging him high!

24 hours seems sufficient time to give a convicted criminal for him to consider going to either Heaven or Hell when he is put to death.

 

[ok doser]

In what way is executing criminals convicted of capital punishments within 24 hours of conviction an elimination of due process?

In what is trying and convicting someone of a crime (given two or three witnesses that establish the matter) within 48 of the criminal being caught an elimination of due process?

It isn't

He's created a strawman

 

[Sherman]

Interesting the way some would so impulsively play at our rights and liberties in the short term for a fleeting, impassioned opportunity at revenge.

Be careful what you choose to (knee-jerk) negate for others...you might require its privilege one day..

Murder, really? I have no desire to go in a crowd of people a spray them with bullets. That's for the psychopathic nut jobs.

 

[Gary K]

Nice rant....that has nothing to do with Due Process.

Who cares? It has everything to do with the aims and purposes of those of you who dislike justice for criminals. I didn't expect you to like or to agree. I would have been shocked had you done that for it meant you would have had to changed coats.

 

[quip]

Who said anything about redacting it?

You.

In what way is executing criminals convicted of capital punishments within 24 hours of conviction an elimination of due process?

In what is trying and convicting someone of a crime (given two or three witnesses that establish the matter) within 48 of the criminal being caught an elimination of due process?

So, in other words a kangaroo court....inadequate and impractical by design otherwise.

 

[quip]

Who cares?

Millions of Americans.

 

[annabenedetti]

Millions of Americans.

Who don't want a theocratic police state.

 

[ok doser]

You.





So, in other words a kangaroo court....inadequate and impractical by design otherwise.

Swift justice in your demented mind means a kangaroo court?

OK. :idunno:

 

[Gary K]

Who don't want a theocratic police state.

You just want an anti-Christian police state. That's the why all of the anti-Christian propaganda coming from the left and the why of the deliberate destruction of the morals of this country.