moparguy
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You have the audacity to talk about protecting families and children from the homosexual menace, while you yourselves tear apart families and drive children to despair. I don’t know why my son is gay, but I do know that God didn’t put him, and millions like him, on this Earth to give you someone to abuse. God gave you brains so that you could think, and it’s about time you started doing that.
Sad that seemingly all that we can get on this topic is mostly interaction on the level of ignorant and possibly bigoted strawmaning.
I wonder if the person that originally wrote this stuff is aware of people who don't fit the common stereotype: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/10/this_lesbians_daughter_has_had_enough.html
At the core of all your misguided beliefs is the belief that this could never happen to you, that there is some kind of subculture out there that people have chosen to join. The fact is that if it can happen to my family, it can happen to yours, and you won’t get to choose. Whether it is genetic or whether something occurs during a critical time of fetal development, I don’t know. I can only tell you with an absolute certainty that it is inborn.
Stating something she doesn't have the means to know, and than basing conclusions upon it. Sad, considering she just told everyone to start thinking.
If you want to tout your own morality, you’d best come up with something more substantive than your heterosexuality.
...as if the argument from "natural law" (there is no such thing) is the only counter argument out there. For an example of a decent counter-argument to, say the gay christian movement, for example: http://aomin.org/podcasts/GayChristianityRefuted.mp3
You did nothing to earn it; it was given to you. If you disagree, I would be interested in hearing your story, because my own heterosexuality was a blessing I received with no effort whatsoever on my part. It is so woven into the very soul of me that nothing could ever change it. For those of you who reduce sexual orientation to a simple choice, a character issue, a bad habit or something that can be changed by a 10-step program, I’m puzzled. Are you saying that your own sexual orientation is nothing more than something you have chosen, that you could change it at will? If that’s not the case, then why would you suggest that someone else can?
It doesn't matter if the desires are chosen or not, for the simple reason that desires can in no way provide a moral justification. Nor a legal one.
It's not right to do something just because you really, really, really want to and you can't even conceive of life without doing that thing.
You religious folk just can’t bear the thought that as my son emerges from the hell that was his childhood he might like to find a lifelong companion and have a measure of happiness. It offends your sensibilities that he should request the right to visit that companion in the hospital, to make medical decisions for him or to benefit from tax laws governing inheritance.
Kleptomaniacs who are forced to not steal have a "childhood of hell" too. But, of course, we can't make that comparison. That would require thinking like a human with the "brains God gave you" in order to realize that the comparison is perfectly valid.
Again, just because someone really wants something, their desire doesn't justify any given behavior. Or way of thinking, for that matter.
Shockingly, all it means is that ... they have that desire.
You use religion to abdicate your responsibility to be thinking human beings. There are vast numbers of religious people who find your attitudes repugnant. God is not for the privileged majority, and God knows my son has committed no sin.
She ought to have taken her own advise. She and her son and society would be far better off for it.
I seriously doubt she has any good and necessary justification for claiming to know what God is for and what God knows.
Humans can't change themselves. Thankfully, God can:
1 Corinthians 6:11
And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.