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You need to stop now before you are called a heretic. You're darn close in my book. The blood of Christ has cleansed us from all sin. True believers have the Jesus Christ IN US. Who are you to dare question our Great God?

Amen, and it's a sure and certain hope because we have the earnest of the Spirit. 2 Corinthians 1:22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

I believe John saw all those things just the way he describes them. Some are almost indescribable. surreal even, but I know we're at the brink with AI, holograms and everything, that all these things could appear during the tribulation and wrath of God. Rev. 1:2 Who bare record of the word...

Ah, you TDsyndrome boys don't know Trump like we do.

I doubt it, but he'll be known as one of THEM. I'm just hoping he has to live with the shame once everyone knows. If I'm wrong, I'll be surprised. He's always seemed a little too "controlled" to me.

Pence is a traitor. I saw him fist bump Pelosi after they went ahead and accepted the vote. Guilty as hell.

Yep, that's true. I'm just saying it's what many people think when they get water baptized.

Peter was preaching they had to endure to the end Well, there's definitely a time of transitioning once the Jews crucified their Messiah. I think, though, from what Peter and James and Jude write they were still waiting for the Kingdom, and that Kingdom will still come. You should start a...

1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Not irrelevant, just postponed. He and the rest were looking for this. The Gospel of the Kingdom would have come in IF the Jews had not rejected their Messiah and crucified Him on the cross. Isaiah 9: 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon...

Exactly and Paul says very explicitly he had conferred with none of the Apostles before passing on the Gospel of Grace the RISEN LORD had given to him.

The one the RESURRECTED LORD gave to Paul is the gospel that saves.

The Gospel of the Kingdom is what Jesus and the Apostles preached. That is the good news that Jesus would rule on this earth as King. The Gospel of Salvation by grace through faith that Paul preached was most certainly different. It was belief in the death, burial, and resurrection of our Lord...

I totally agree with that. It's certainly understandable, though, that many would think of water baptism as a symbol of something. Death and resurrection being the primary one, I would guess.

I realize that, but actually it's a practice not even meant for us.

You've manifested that it's true. You're in the dark about what the Bible is telling you.

Looks to me like you're a fence straddler. You can't sit for very long on that line between law and grace. You'll get more and more uncomfortable as you deny what is preached on one side while holding to the other.

The Jews were given the baptism of repentance. That means they accepted Christ as their Messiah. That is not the same as being baptized by the Holy Spirit into the body of Christ.

No, it is not. I do have my God-given conscience, however. Then you have a bit of a problem, don't you? Jesus told us what keeping the commandments entailed in Matt. 5. If you lust, you've committed adultery in your heart. If you call someone a fool, you've murdered them. In other words...

That's not true. It's not true because that is speaking to the Jews, and it's speaking of the Gospel of the Kingdom. The Kingdom was put on hold when the Jews crucified their Messiah. Did you know that Jesus was only sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel? Matthew 10:6 But go rather...