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@Clete Correct, I have seen no evidence of anything supernatural. other than the lion the witch and the wardrobe, I don't care what CS Lewis. wrote. The basis for everything is physics and chemistry, not some invisible god. Perhaps you are right, our reasoning can lead us to accept things...

I stopped being angry here some time ago--not worth the effort. You think Kepler, Newton and Pascal would have the same thoughts today? They would ignore the scientific advances since their time and stick with the Bible? I suspect not if they were as smart as they seem to have been. Your...

your statements are both wrong. I responded to the post and I am pretty certain you are well aware of the evidence of the age of the earth, you choose not to accept it because it conflicts with your theology

Wrong and wrong

You've proven atheism is false because John 1:1? Perhaps your biased nonsense is showing. And now Christianity is responsible for all things that make my life comfortable. Petroleum makes my life comfortable--heating, cooling, mobility, it was created millions of years ago by the remains of...

No, I made it clear that I reject his presupposition of the existence of God. His claim that the Christian presupposition of the existence of God is not arbitrary is simply incorrect. Basing that presupposition on a declaration in the Bible is no different than basing one's life on the...

You are welcome. But I’m not buying your God. Your presupposition is that God exists and it is the God of the Bible. You base your understanding of the world on a cobbled together book that is without a consistent reading. It has led humans to acceptance of ignorance, numerous wars, irrational...

Clete, if all truth claims do not need to be supported by logic and reason, on what are they supported?

No clue. Why don’t you tell me

Sure. is it what you believe as well?

If logic is the only way our mind works and the only framework through which thought can be structured where meaning is the result then all truth claims must be established by means of logic and reason no matter your world view, correct?

just make the point

Resisting the urge to keep laughing

ahh, and we know that how? geologic theory is wrong? My hero Alfred Wegener was mistaken?

Are you suggesting you personally clarify the independent basis by which facts are established? Do you accept the fact of plate tectonics? If so, how did you determine the underlying facts that support that theory?

Interesting list. Wonder how mine would be different? I have read 18 on that list. I think I will look for Penrose—The Road to Reality

A dictionary definition of evidence is good to start with "the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid", work for you, or do you have a different definition

Hard to beat your logic

Hunh, no, I don't make the Ayn Rand mistake because I am aware there are many flavors of Christianity and many interpretations of the Bible and other Holy Books. Which raises the question of why whatever god exists cannot or will not make things plain and understandable The fact that I can read...

Wow!!