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ImCo, of course He was there, we all were - He as our creator and we as ALL of His creation. We all experienced making the choice to put our faith in HIS claims to be our GOD and that the Son was the only solution to sinfulness or put our faith in the idea that HE was a liar and a false god...

Consider that the last event in the recorded relationship between YHWH and HIS creation is the Marriage of the Lamb to the holy Church. HIS story doesn't end with the final judgment but with the marriage, that inner psychological event inside us that is the fulfillment of earthly marriage...

If evil has been sequestered on earth by the imprisonment of satan's angels and the sinful elect, the good seed, to this planet, there is no reason to destroy more than earth or this solar system... I also wonder about the extravagance of creation and suspect it will be used for more than just...

But Rom 5:12 does not say that, does it...Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned. It says death comes to all men for all men are sinners. In other words, only sinners are sown, planted into this...

The opinion that one born of GOD cannot sin would seem to contradict the direct meaning of Heb 12:5-11 which contends that we are trained in righteousness by a harsh discipline against our sins akin to being scourged with the cat of nine tails. And this blessing is reserved for HIS beloved...

I have never claimed that the term sons of GOD has never referred to angels but that angel is an interpretation of the scripture not a reporting of what was written...ALL the bene elohim, not malek, angel...a bit of eisegesis as it were that means the interpretation that it can refer to all HIS...

Indeed I agree with this although when we were singing GOD's praise when we saw the creation of the physical universe, Job 38:7, I doubt if we could be called mankind yet. Mankind is what we are called after our fall into sinfulness when we are sown, ie planted, not created, into this world...

Sinful before eating... First: the law is NOT given to the righteous or the innocent but to lawbreakers to convict them of their sin: 1 Timothy 1:9 We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers etc... Romans 3:20... rather, through the law we become conscious of...

No Sir, I do not claim anyone was made a sinner especially if made is to mean created. ImCo: I contend that every person created in the image of GOD was created with a free will and the equal ability and opportunity to choose to either become holy by putting their faith, their unproven hope, in...

Off the top: Job 38:7 ...while the morning stars sang together and all the sons of GOD shouted for joy? If one is a son of GOD then he was there witnessing the creation and singing his heart out!!! This and the hints that Adam and Eve were sinners in the garden are a good start... I have...

I would mark this essay as a winner if such an emoji was used here. But I disagree with your conclusion that that being born of the Holy Spirit happened at conception and then again at our rebirth. I place our first birth in the Spirit as at our creation before the creation of the physical...

Have you considered: Deuteronomy 32:5 “They have corrupted themselves; They are not His children because of their blemish but a perverse and crooked generation. OR their blemish is that they are not HIS children. World English Bible They have dealt corruptly with him, [they are] not his...

I've studied the writing of folk with your pov since the mid 1970s. I have discounted them as based upon secular interpretations, not the Spirit. Yet still, the questions I bring up are never discussed nor are the interpretations of the verses I use for my pov ever discussed...you seem to be...

Is cherry picker the new term to deny that a verse can be interpreted as against your view?

Your statement denies 1 Peter 2:25 For "you were like sheep going astray," but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls. in which all converts to Christ are called sheep. And it is off topic.

His sheep are all His elect. His sheep gone astray are all His rebellious sheep that are born as sinful humans - nothing to do with any nation or ethnicity at all. We don't need to define this any deeper to propose an answer to how, why and when they went astray. Two pages of obfuscation and...

No I must not...that is YOUR trip into dispensationalism not mine. This is about the injustice of inherited sin, not who is Israel or a Gentile. ALL HIS sheep are gone astray no matter who they are! All must be returned to their Bishop and Redeemer. How / when did they go astray?? Please...

Are not the wicked nations lost, those who turn their back on HIM, forgetting HIM and who return to Sheol on their death? Ps 9:17 The wicked do turn back / return to Sheol, All nations forgetting God. And does not Peter refer to new converts as sheep in 1 Peter 2:25 For "you were like sheep...

Prove that these spirits who were created in HIS image never became born as humans. Job 38:7 while the morning stars sang together and ALL the Sons of GOD shouted for joy? uses the worlds bene elohim, not mal'ach. What is your proof that your eisegesis of changing Sons of GOD to angel is proper?

Everyone created was a Son of GOD and they all saw the creation of the physical universe: Job 38:7 while the morning stars sang together and ALL the Sons of GOD shouted for joy? In this place, Sons of GOD is often translated as angels, a bit of a "slight of eisegesis" as they don't want anyone...