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That sums it up ;) pj

Its your obessession with 'demons' that is comical, since you attribute so much to them. My reference in general indicates your 'assumption' of the celestial personalities being 'demons' that gave us the Papers which I referred to as 'imaginary'. That is your own biased opinion (further obscured...

Beyond your obsession with imaginary demons, the Gospel of John is not without its controversy, concerning its original author, dating and certain 'redactions' thru-out. It being the most spiritual gospel has within it subtle gnostic teachings, which were crafted to be anti-gnostic at some point...

Wiki is often an excellent starting point with fair coverage, quotes, scholarship references and resource links for anyone researching on a particular subject. So downplaying wiki does not help your case. pj

Definition of sin Definition of sin 89:10.2 Sin must be redefined as deliberate disloyalty to Deity. There are degrees of disloyalty: the partial loyalty of indecision; the divided loyalty of confliction; the dying loyalty of indifference; and the death of loyalty exhibited in devotion to...

The Eucharist The Eucharist Spiritually interpreted. Granted, this is only recorded in the gospel of John, whose teachings are quite different(unique) compared to the other gospels. Some associate this with the Lord's Supper and the miracle of 'transubstantiation', however the UB simply...

pop tarts............. pop tarts............. Sure,....yet how the subtelty of 'personality' weaves into the fields of souls is all the more complex :) 42:12.2 Mind is always creative. The mind endowment of an individual animal, mortal, morontian, spirit ascender, or finality attainer is...

higher learning...... higher learning...... Yes,...the UB presents a kind of cosmic-mythos with each 'personality' playing their part thru 'relationships'. Hence the psychological profile of each entity is interesting whether in 'rebellion' or uniting with the will of God,...which is the crux...

Lucifer, Satan from a UB perspective Lucifer, Satan from a UB perspective ~*~*~ The UB perspective on Lucifer and Satan is insightful in the greater cosmological context of things - The Lucifer Rebellion For traditional christians, an acquaintance of the UB in general on how it follows and...

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz You havent a clue of what you criticize, let alone comparing the Papers to your outdated OT references and definitions of 'witchcraft', commonly paraded by fundies against any other revelations outside the bible. With little research or knowledge of the...

Your brilliance never ceases to amaze. pj

Yes,...I believe the papers share more info. on Jesus travels than the NT. Other apocryphal accounts tell of Jesus travels in the East, - India, etc. We explore this in the 'Jesus in India' thread. The 'kindgom' of the Spirit is always the heart of the message. pj

all things 'personal'....... all things 'personal'....... Yes, a most definitive revelation-teaching on 'personality' itself, as originating from the Universal Father who Himself is a divine Personality. - yet also including all other non-personal levels of reality in all their aspects. The...

eternity/infinity relationships....... eternity/infinity relationships....... Certain aspects of the cosmology are logically consistent, asides from more spectacular worlds with their own unique names and associations(which appear unique to the UB itself). The basic layout however of the Isle...

Anything seen thru our most powerful telescopes is limited to the realm of our immediate local universe (Nebadon), or however far the range of our scopes extend. The extended cosmos and 7 Superuniverses that surround the Isle of Paradise are beyond what our scopes at this point in time can...

in the following............... in the following............... Indeed, the surrender of our entire being to 'God' is the true 'sacrifice', of spirit, soul and body. There is nothing else required as our initial love-response. None can offer this sacrifice for us, or in our place.....we must...

the religious ego's defense mechanisms............. the religious ego's defense mechanisms............. I didnt bring up Paul earlier, but am merely sharing more info. about him as a 'follow-up'. Your spiteful knee-jerk over-reaction is very telling. - and your condescending manners do...

Paul, the first heretic....... Paul, the first heretic....... The problems with Paul are manifold, on various levels, recognized by many, 'his gospel' being a syncretism of judaism, greek philosophy, gnostic elements, mystery-religion, his own 'revelations'.... plus not all the letters...

cosmology cosmology The Papers have one of the most awesome presentations on universe cosmology ever - Studies of Urantia Book Cosmology :thumb: pj

However, Paul still held to a 'vicarious blood atonement' concept, even though his theology was a more spiritualized version of things. It goes without saying that physical blood has no power at all to cleanse sins, neither can the death or bloodshed of another atone for one's own sins. - the...