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atonement without blood............. atonement without blood............. See here (all linked). Blood atonement belief and concept already covered. No need to re-invent the wheel, and go in more circles. Remember, 'blood' is symbolic. You can have faith in any thing or substance, but the...

Just a bunch of hot air.............. :crackup: pj

Omnipresence....... Omnipresence....... Oh the irony. We are all individual offsprings of God, having one universal Father. A spirit-fragment of God indwells all human mortals of normal-mind capacity. We all live in God and God in us. pj

Specific examples? pj

The 'enemy' could be a figment of your imagination. pj

Did u read the first 5 papers to know the fundamental theology of God yet? If you want to critique a text you need to read it first, then specify on particulars. The UB Online pj

Still ignorant of the material............ Still ignorant of the material............ You still have no clue what this thread is about. Discussion. You are the one assuming I'm selling anything. I'm not. I serve as an expositor/expounder and explorer of religious ideas, concepts and...

Then you have no real value or meaning to contribute in a discussion on the papers, so are just a sock-puppet here from the very first page of this thread....and offer the same rhetoric and spin. The first 5 papers do not discuss any blood-sacrifice but focus on the nature of God and his...

Says an ignoramous who hasn't read the papers therefore has nothing of real value or meaning to contribute here, but blind condemnation. By the same token, many non-believers in the bible could say the same thing to that collection of books. Apples and oranges. You have nothing in this...

if you want to research points......... if you want to research points......... Definitely, as I've shared here before on 'blood-atonement'. One doesn't need the UB to see this, as many other schools reject this concept of 'atonement', and at best see aspects of this as...

Learn the essential theology on God first...... Learn the essential theology on God first...... Can you show from a precursory reading of the first 5 papers on the nature of God and his relationship with cosmos and individual souls what is 'fiction'? Furthermore, out of all the 196 papers...

Reviewing the RULES here............ Reviewing the RULES here............ Hi glorydaz, You'll note that this rule applies primarily to single posters infiltrating and imposing their posts into an already existing thread, making 'outlandish, crazy statements merely to get a rise out of the...

I've addressed you and your misrepresentations already. The idea of 'buying' or 'selling' is yours alone. If you're not interested in discussion, then leave the thread. pj

TOL is for discussion..... TOL is for discussion..... The obvious fact here is that he's targeted the UB for his 'trolling' and 'ridicule'...it becoming an obsession. It could also be his penchant for drama, his general boredom, and other psychological factors where he cannot resist such...

The everywhere ' The everywhere ' It might dawn on you that a fragment of 'God' indwells all mortals of normal-mind capacity and potential. Furthermore to deny that God indwells all mortals is to deny his omnipresence. There's more to this, but just a morsel to nibble on :) Oh goodness...

The power and judgement of the fallen rebels...... The power and judgement of the fallen rebels...... From what I understand however, Caligastia and some rebellious midwayers are still roaming freely, although it is true that since Pentecost and the outpouring of the Son's Spirit of...

Yes, try the spirits................ Yes, try the spirits................ You keep repeating that assertion. Yep. You try the spirits by seeing/sensing what kind of 'spirit' is behind the message, personality or presentation. Since the spirit inspiring the positive message of the papers is...

"examine all things, hold fast to that which is good" "examine all things, hold fast to that which is good" Not necessarily. I simply suggested to discern all things, and in relation to their context. In a different 'context' or 'contextualization' of a sharing, the relative truth, meanings...

Reality check......... Reality check......... One Universal God-source exists and is the Universal Father of all. This Universal One includes and encompasses all. By the same standard, your own religious writings or any volume you consider 'scripture' can be considered so as well,...since...

Expounding on different ideas, concepts, beliefs, points of view..... Expounding on different ideas, concepts, beliefs, points of view..... It is true. This thread is for exploring, investigating, researching the Urantia Papers. That's it. There are parts I find very interesting, and some...