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I don't think that's the problem with him. If you scroll back through the exchanges he doesn't seem to consider forced sex in a marriage rape at all.

They have to but they know it doesn't fly They're showing the same footage on their state controlled media with the caption "fake" alongside and their spokesperson is claiming that not even one Ukrainian civilian has been harmed by Russian troops. It's pathetic. Anyone who is an apologist for...

Nope, it's because that's what rape is. Forcing yourself on another is rape. If you force yourself on your partner, your spouse then it's rape, simple as. You asked me what I'd propose to do so you had your answer.

With so much horror going on and not only the Ukraine I find it helps to balance it with recognizing that there's still beauty amidst it all. From one of my favourite classical suites and my fave in it overall: Neptune The Mystic. Beguiling, haunting, otherworldly and utterly utterly sublime...

You can say whatever you want, doesn't alter the fact that it's rape. Same as with anyone else. As I don't support the DP (more for miscarriages than anything else) then lob em' in jail and throw away the key.

Yes. Duh.

The whole duck argument was nonsense in relation as explained prior. Bringing nationality into morality is just you waving the stars and stripes about, it's pathetic. My stance on rape is clear as all get out frankly.

What, you gonna point to other regimes like Saudi Arabia as well where women don't have anywhere near the same rights as we have in the West? When put on the spot where it comes to forcing oneself on another you answered with "depends" so you don't get to dictate anything where it comes to...

All that stuff about ducks for a start. Americans have differing sets of beliefs on issues as do peoples of any given nationality so you wanna quit with that nonsense.

Eh, what was tripping you up exactly?

Well, with you it's not so apparent it has been included considering that you bring provisos into the equation where a normally functioning person would just flat out condemn rape period, no matter what. If you're looking for God as an answer then fine, I'm cool with that.

Sometimes I wonder if it was ever 'in vogue' nowadays...

You don't know all that much all round do you?

It's inbuilt. I despise cruelty, abuse, violation and all manner associated. Those who don't and make excuses for such have something that isn't so inbuilt, like psychopaths, sociopaths and the like. I've categorically and unequivocally stated that any form of rape is abhorrent. You haven't. How so?

Again, anthropomorphism isn't the issue here and neither's America frankly.

How on earth is it uncomfortable for me exactly? I flat out and categorically state that rape is indefensible under any circumstances be it within marriage or else. How does it get any clearer than that?. When you've been put on the spot you've stated "depends" and gone on some garbled rubbish...

"Terrified"? Hardly, bemused mostly as to how folk like yourself are so gullible to buy into so much bunk.

What's that supposed to mean exactly?

New Hampshire. This convo's pointless. If you don't intrinsically know that there's something abhorrent about forcing yourself onto another under any circumstances then there's clearly something wrong with you.