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  1. Town Heretic

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    That for all its immense complexity, it's easier to understand than why you believe in the flat earth conspiracy. Meanwhile, how do satellites work in your universe?
  2. Town Heretic

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    What did you guys do to Venus...Jack loves spotting it in the evening, so this is going to devastate him. :Plain:
  3. Town Heretic

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Are you technically allowed to use "learned" and "Flat Earth" in the same sentence? :think: I'll go one better and say the logo is exactly what it looks like. :Plain: What? Where does the Great Turtle come into this? (Ha, trick question, as we come into the Great Turtle) Whereas this theory...
  4. Town Heretic

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Maybe you weren't standing in the right place to see it. :Plain: Is this the ol "Why aren't the lander feet covered with moon dust bit? Simply put, the mass of the entire atmosphere of the moon is less than the amount of gas expelled by each Apollo descent engine. As a result, if you were to...
  5. Town Heretic

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Noted prior and more than once in trying to get Dave to consider the problematic nature of a world wide conspiracy. He's prophet of this thing, not a seeker after answers, so it appears when presented with a solid enough rebuttal or a consideration that doesn't allow him to raise the next point...
  6. Town Heretic

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Not sure what marks you'd expect to see. There's not going to be a crater, as per the prior note. The module didn't walk around, so...I'm still not buying your bridge. :)
  7. Town Heretic

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    And the goal posts keep moving. Has nothing to do with a blast crater. The spacecraft mass of 15,065 kg was the mass of the LM including astronauts, propellants and expendables. Of course, that's here, not there.
  8. Town Heretic

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    That's our Dave, just keep putting them out and moving along. :Plain: At this point all you're sustaining is the notion that flat earthers wouldn't leave footprints on any surface. Okay, let's address the Dave Cosnette bit. Footprints hold their shape in a couple of ways. One way, the way FE...
  9. Town Heretic

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The article I linked to dealt with the belts, concerns and testing utilized, as well as the results of that testing. Radiation in those belts isn't uniform. From the article you apparently never read: The first recommendations for dealing with the Van Allen belts on a possible mission to the...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Here's a pretty good rebuttal. Essentially, you have to understand the forces in play: The lunar module (LM) descent stage engine had a maximum thrust of 9870 ft-lb, but this was throttleable back to a minimum of 1050 ft-lb. Sounds like a lot. But, the diameter of the nozzle was 63 inches...
  11. Town Heretic

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Actually: When cosmologists say that the universe is flat they are referring to space—the nowverse and its parallel siblings of time past. Spacetime is not flat. It can’t be: Einstein’s general theory of relativity says that matter and energy curve spacetime, and there are enough matter and...
  12. Town Heretic

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    You leave too much on the table and ignore explanations, testimony, etc. to restate your position too often for me to credit you're interested in understanding the mistakes and assumptions you're making. I'm going to leave a link to a site that has enough to dispel your notion. My favorite...
  13. Town Heretic

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    You know, I had a feeling you might have. You actually do have reason to accept the volume of film and credible claims by eye witnesses, some of whom you've been given and one or two noted, without actually commenting on what that should tell you. Anyway, the simplest reason is that were those...
  14. Town Heretic

    Merry Christmas from Psalmist

    Because I always looked forward to this: [/COLOR][/INDENT] * Mrs Psalmist and I send you this for Christmas, may your cup of blessing be so full that you are drinking from the saucer, may the porch light ever be on so you can find your way home, may you and your family be a blessing...
  15. Town Heretic

    Trump's Election an Echo, Not Foreshadowing

    A view from the center. To borrow a bit and to my friends on the left, why shouldn't you worry? Because the Republican Party just fielded its most galvanizing candidate since Reagan. One singularly tailored to best bring the decade long doom and gloom, mistrust of government institutions and...
  16. Town Heretic

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    Now some might be offended by that statement, by the implication in it of conflict and the suggestion of a distinction in difference with the person of Christ. I think you could and should have voiced that differently, but I'll set that complaint aside in answering...To the orthodox Christian...
  17. Town Heretic

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    I appreciate your sharing/testimony and I think an interruption that produces the sort of change any of us are speaking to is in itself a miracle, but I don't know of any particular reason to think that Paul, relating the greatest truth of an altered life, would alter the truth of it in telling...
  18. Town Heretic

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    While I don't agree with the inference, I'd say it does boil the whole thing down. Either Paul was given a commission by the risen Christ and it behooves us to pay attention, or he was someone making a claim no different from any number of claims. Same on the inference, but I also had a...
  19. Town Heretic

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    Well, Paul would likely say that not only did he commune with those who were most intimate with Jesus, but that he actually met the risen Christ while on his way to Damascus and that for the rest of his life he was guided by the one who set his feet on a particular path. So if we accept that...
  20. Town Heretic

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    That's what someone said to the Huns and just look what happened. :Plain: Doesn't sound like it would interest me then. The reasonable and logical arguments for Christ are too compelling, if you really needed assurance on the point. Paul writing and having established a vital church within the...
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