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Remember, what I will write will be what I believe is the correct interpretation regarding symbolism we can find used through out the Bible. I will start with this concept: Gen. 2 The LORD formed man a body out of the ground [the elements from which the world was made]. Yet, before he started...

My thoughts: If God is omni-present, then if there is a created place by definition he is there! I also believe God did not create things out of nothing. That statement doesn't even make sense if we say he is omni-present. God created all things within his infinite self. He called forth...

Wow, what a thorough response. I will try to give my take on things as briefly as possible. Remember I am not here to debate but merely to share how I see things. You are welcome to disagree. Derf wondered: The bible says "He" was buried, not "His body" was buried. 1. My reply: Well, who was...

Hello Clete, Thank you for speaking to me. I get some of my thoughts from this statement, which Jesus made to a man who wanted to be his disciple, "Let the dead bury their dead." My original question: Weren't the living burying the dead? Explanation: There is a spiritual death as well as a...

NEW REPLY BEGINS HERE: Seems we agree and disagree. Pretty typical of Bible discussions. First about In Gen 3:14-19..”And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust...

LOL, I always say A LOT! Hard to know where to start with a question. Sorry. Let's see if I can do better. I will do my best to explain another point which may clear up how I look at life and death and spirit body and soul. I'm a little out of the box; so, I hope you will understand my ideas...

Well, first of all, God experienced pain and suffering when he, being the only true God, came as the Savior [Isaiah 43:11] through his being crucified on the cross as his own begotten Son. Second, I'm not sure the risen Lord, who was quickened by the Spirit of God, would have suffered where...

There are two deaths for humanity. Sadly while lost souls are in hell/Haydes they live and must suffer until the second death. Just like the Saints must ask: "How long do we have to wait ..." So are lost souls waiting. But the second death is another matter.

I'm just not convinced that human life and soul/body will exist after being tossed in the LOF. I've heard a lot of explanations but I base my theories on a few things I've learned. 1.) God gives life to humanity in measures. First God added a MIST of water to the ground before THE LORD form a...

Hello. I believe scripture. There are verses used to talk about eternal suffering which I think are misread: Rev. 14:10-11. These are talking about humans who took the mark of the beast. It does not say they are thrown into the Lake of Fire. The LOF comes after the 1,000 year reign of Christ on...

Hello SaulToPaul2. I think you may be the same person who wrote years ago. I'm not sure about the #2. Guess you may not remember me from 2006 ... I once posted often. Thought I would check out TOL. Glad to see that it is still here.

Sorry. I did think I was on topic ... considering posters were talking about the resurrection and the state to which people would be raised. Several referred to the end times. People will be raised to either eternal life or to go to the Lake of fire along with the beast, false prophet, and...

Hello again 7djengo7. You have noted good verses and have good questions. Let me see if I can give one succinct answer to all. Men can die two deaths. I'm not saying all men die two deaths for Christ has given his followers the Spirit which holds them until eternally here after life. We...

Just let me explain how I see Ps82 and I'll bet you never see it the same again. Read it like a play with scenes with dialogue between characters. I will paraphrase but you go back and compare. Scene 1 has God seated standing among the mighty judging among the gods. There is a particular...

I have not been on TOL for years. I have not kept up with this thread. I don't plan to pick up on any previous conversations between individuals. I plan to write my ideas. Something new that will build to the topic of Resurrection to Life or Judgement. I always have to start with 'in the...

Today I am thrilled that two posters have "liked" my ideas about Jesus being God. Years ago when I wrote on TOL most people wanted to pick my thoughts apart and disagree.

Well, I'll have to admit you have me confused. Derf. You seem to have me Ps82 confused with Keiw1. ??? So sorry. Have a nice evening.

Well, I have not kept up with all Rightdivider has written on that topic. Can't speak for him or add much. I'm probably out of both your boxes. I think people will experience the last three years of tribulation. I think there will even be believers around. I lean toward a post rapture at this...

There are at least four aspects of how Jesus is/was all God. Perhaps there are more. 1.) He bore the ONE image God had created for his personal use as the one God. First mentioned in Genesis 1:26-27. 2.) He is the WORD of God. Mentioned in John 1:1-3. And mentioned in Genesis 3:8-10 as the ONE...

Quote for me the words you don't like. Sometimes I assume people have read the passages I have and know what they say. I'll try my best to give you scripture. BTW, I have not been back to this forum in many years. Still getting accustomed to what people want or need. Give me the list with which...