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That requires ignoring everything in the "Old Testament" where Israel is established as Gods' people. And his own testimony. A gentile had to first bless Israel and convert.

Correct. The thing with prophecy is it is repeated in scripture. You just won't find it in Paul's letters. That was the unsearchable riches of Christ. Let me give a quick example. From Daniel. 31 And forces shall be mustered by him, and they shall defile the sanctuary fortress; then they shall...

Also, you don't answer a question with a question.

It was already answered and you don't like it. We are walking and breathing, yet Paul says my body is dead. And he proved it with the law. My spirit is now alive having been baptized by the Holy Spirit into Christ. That is not born a second time. I still occupy a dead body.

You said it was allegoric meaning it is an abstract and not a literal idea. When you start your post with a lie, it stops there until correction.

So we don't really need to be born again?

Have you noticed the order of books of the "New Testament" match the many dispensationalist charts that exist? Even Paul's letters are in a specific order, by the work of the Holy Spirit. They line up. Our doctrine today is Ephesians. All of it is useful and edifying.

No takers?

And he clearly was walking and breathing.

Paul tells you the context, since you reject the obvious. Go read. He is correcting and rebuking, as usual.

Are you born again IAW what the Lord Jesus Christ said in Verse 8? Demonstrate it for us. I'll wait.

I think they do. They can't win the frontal assault. So they went into schools. And government bureaucracies including the military. Installing Obama was decades in the making. Subtil is the word in the KJV. Cunning and clever in others.

You are clearly not here to deceive. I have a question that is off my own subject. It is the way of TOL. Embrace it. Have you seen a chart like this before? You probably have, but I want to make sure. There are others like it.

Your point is wrong. False dilemma might be the term. It doesn't say it is an ongoing process as suggested. We are being saved, those who have called upon him for salvation. If you sit in front of a catholic "priest", you are clearly not saved, nor calling on him. You are asking for a...

Correct, which is why I call them liars. After they have been shown, if they continue, then what do you call it? Retardation?

I have not seen this. Despite the claims of that idiot godrulz. I know he is no longer here. I saw the thread. It doesn't change his moronic and foolish ways.

Gentile salvation had to go through Israel. They had to first bless Israel and become circumcised, opening a path for the whole world. However, this is not about the dispensation of grace, but what came before. Verse 8 shows nobody here is born again. If you refer to the dispensation of grace...

Correct. However, it is resurrection. Verse 8 is ignored because it does not fit the claims. When shown, many disregard and say it has to be interpreted. Which is always the answer when people don't like what it says.

Back to the subject the devil's worker is trying to redirect from. From his perspective, the "protestants" are mostly wrong about it. Even those who are in Christ and called upon him to save them. You are not born again. John 3:8 tells you this.