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    Engaged Perfection: : The Relational Nature of God

    A distinction suggests the two are compatible, i.e., not contradictory. "Mortal" is contradictory to "immortal".
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    Engaged Perfection: : The Relational Nature of God

    Agreed Agreed, but that cements my point, that He was at one time mortal, despite being immortal at the same time. Acts 13:34 KJV — And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David. Can...
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    Engaged Perfection: : The Relational Nature of God

    Can you list the attributes of each nature and see if he had both? Divine: immortal Human: mortal Divine: all powerful Human: weak and subject to corruption Etc. Can a person be both at the same time?
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    Can a Christian lose their salvation

    Or Paul: 2 Thessalonians 1:11 KJV — Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:
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    Engaged Perfection: : The Relational Nature of God

    Christians have a new nature (spirit) and an old nature (flesh). We are assured that the old is passed away, and we are new creatures, yet something of the old remains to be dwelt with, as we all recognize. Our natures are in conflict, as Paul tells us in Rom 7, but Jesus's natures were not...
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    Engaged Perfection: : The Relational Nature of God

    Good article, Clete. I have a question. Why do you feel that a glorified body is of more consequence than a mortal body? It seems His glorification was a partial changing back to what He was before His incarnation. In that sense, I feel like His incarnation to a mortal body was the bigger change...
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    New look days of Noah and the sons of God

    Lack of reproduction by no means eliminates the possibility of a being being a sexual being (no typo there). Not just his kingdom, but his family, too: "you are of your FATHER, the devil." But that suggests that they were either born into his family, or that they became a part of his family...
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    Reasons against homeschooling?

    As do I, about what you wrote here, at least in large part. My point from before was that mental (non-physical) fornication, including the homosexual kind, is a type of adultery where a spouse of yours or the other party's exists, and even when there's no adultery, is a way of not loving your...
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    Reasons against homeschooling?

    Kids can learn from making their own mistakes, providing 1) that they face the appropriate consequences for their mistakes, and 2) that they live through the experience. Our society, most importantly for this conversation, and possibly for the purpose of assuring #2 (or even anything close to...
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    New look days of Noah and the sons of God

    Mother of all the living makes as much sense to mean all of the living to come, especially in light of the other info in the text. Remember that a few verses earlier, she was called THE woman, and he was called THE man. So it seems there were no other humans in the garden. Even a baby is called...
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    Reasons against homeschooling?

    Now you'll need to define "chastity", and explain how an inanimate, non-concrete thing can be offended. For instance, love (as an entity) cannot be offended (because it isn't an entity), but a person who loves can be. "Chastity" isn't an entity, and therefore cannot be offended, but a person who...
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    Reasons against homeschooling?

    I have a hard time doing so without including sexual acts in the definition. That's why I asked. And if sexual acts are involved, then it's not celibacy. If sexual acts are not involved, then it's not homosexuality, imo. Who is Chastity, and why is she involved in this conversation?;) But...
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    the number of the beast

    Maybe it's not the number six, but "stix", also "styx", like the river of death.
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    Reasons against homeschooling?

    Are you saying that someone can love another person sexually without having sex? That's odd. Or is it that a person can lust after someone without committing fornication? I don't think Jesus would agree with that.
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    A missing Link to Genesis 1:6 God said, “I command a dome to separate the water above it from the water below it.”

    It could be. But couldn't it also be that the heavens and the earth did not exist before God said, "Let there be light"? I have, but you don't agree. I get that, but it's not the same as NOT explaining why. not only not named again, but the same exact name is used, with the determinative...
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    New look days of Noah and the sons of God

    I'm not sure what they mean, but if God made a body out of clay and breathed life into it, John Smith would have been created directly. If he were born to Momma Smith, it's indirectly. Much like all the houses man builds were not created by God directly, but the materials came, eventually, from...
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    New look days of Noah and the sons of God

    I think you have to keep the whole context for each group. The angels "left their first estate" or as your version states "left their own abode." This is not immediately the same as "sexual immorality" and "strange flesh". So if the angels' first estate were to have sex with, say, other angels...
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    New look days of Noah and the sons of God

    Regarding a man or men being called a son of God, I know of 2 instances prior to our adoption as sons and fellow heirs with the begotten son of God, both in the New Testament. Luke 3:38 KJV — Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of...
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    New look days of Noah and the sons of God

    No it wouldn't. It would just mean you have to translate from the spoken Greek instead of the written. ;)
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    I just hear this: Why was Satan told to partake of the ground?

    I suppose that it could be a connection between blood and water...and wine? There seem too many metaphors to try to mix them all together. But yes, life from the dead is a great miracle bought by Jesus' blood.
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