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Is the Rapture a doctrine of the Church taught in scripture
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if anyone does check Vine's greek dictionary you will not find a greek word called rapture
in 1 thess 4:17 the greek word harpazo , in the future tense , in the passive voice , in the plural .
then in 2 thess 3:13 , at the " coming // parousia
and in 2 thess 2: 3 we the greek word departure // apostasta , no one should thoroughly deceive you in not // me , is a
disjuncative particile negative and means neverrrrrrrr one way because the departure should come first , and the man of sin
should be revealed the son of destruction , is why I am pri-tri .
dan p
And your answer should be yes or no? Guess what? Trinity isn't in the Bible either.
glorydaz
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I say yes, and prophecy is being fulfilled as we speak. We need only look at this world situation to see it’s being set up for the Antichrist to come on the scene. The rapture of the church must happen first.
we ae talking about the word , rapture is not a Greek word !!
in my last post , I said we will be taken to be with Lord in 1 Thess 4:17 and in many other verses like Gal 1:4
dan p
glorydaz
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Do you think the Antichrist will be revealed before we are taken up to meet the Lord in the air?
I say no !!
2 Thess 2:3 says no !!
no one should thoroughly deceive you in not//me , says the Greek text , which is disjucntive particle negative and means
it will never happen ever , because except the departure should come first and the man of sin should be be revealed
the son of destruction .
the Greek falling away , is the Greek word departure // apostastia , not falling away and this Greek is also used in
Acts 21:21 and that ks why I am per- mill !!
dan p
Derf
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And don't you think that will be
"Transport; ecstasy; violence of a pleasing passion; extreme joy or pleasure", as rapture is defined? We don't often use the Greek words from the bible, since most of us don't speak Greek. Rapture certainly fits the emotional side of Christ's coming for us.
all should buy Vines Greek Concordance and Strongs Concordance and check Blue letter Bible or Bible Hub , and you will learn !
that is what I did !!
and in 1 Cor 10:2 and all were baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea ??
how would you translate the Greek word Baptized ??
and what the word Cloud and Sea , mean ?? they are figures f speech , good luck !!
dan p
glorydaz
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You see this gathering unto him as the rapture, correct?
2 Thess. 2:1. Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
Yet here it says that day of rapture will not come except…that man of sin be revealed. 2 Thess. 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
I must have read this a hundred times and never saw it. 
glorydaz
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No, the word is harpatzo or something like that. It means to snatch away.
glorydaz
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I would call it being washed for service.
Derf
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I think harpazo means "caught up", which is certainly appropriate. But my point was that we have a word/phrase for rapture in the Greek. It's translated joy unspeakable. It's translated exceeding joy. It's what we expect at the coming of our Lord Jesus.
glorydaz
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I‘ve never heard there is a Greek word for rapture but it makes sense. Those Greeks were big on that.
So the caught up definition of harpazo would be the correct one. Is this just some odd coincidence.