If any man before the cross forsook the spirit of his natural race and came into Gods covenant with Israel then he really became a true Israelite, not a pretend one.
Sounds great, LA. Is that your opinion, or do you have Scripture to corroborate your point? How do you account for Deuteronomy 7:1, 2, 3, Deuteronomy 23:1 KJV, Deuteronomy 23:2 KJV, Deuteronomy 23:3 KJV, Deuteronomy 23: 6 KJV. Listen again to Deuteronomy 7:2 KJV specifically addressing "no covenant with them". Didn't Ezra, some 1,400 years later, concur such marital unions into the house of Israel were a "great trespass" in Ezra 9:1, 2, 7? I don't hear a pre-cross option for entry among the Israelites with said tribes, including the Canaanites. Wasn't Judah (Isaiah 65:9 KJV) married to a Canaanite (Genesis 38:2, 1Chronicles 2:3)? Didn't God personally kill Judah's two elder CANAANITE sons (Genesis 38:6, 7, 8, 9, 10)? That's rather remarkable coincidence: no Canaanites (Deuteronomy 7:1 KJV), and no Canaanites (Ezra 9:1 KJV).
Nonetheless, God did make some exceptions considering Deuteronomy 23:7 KJV, Deuteronomy 23:8 KJV, Deuteronomy 23:9 KJV. Wasn't Esau, 'father' of the Edomites, married to a couple Hittite wives (Genesis 26:34), 'daughters' of Heth, second son of cursed Canaan (Genesis 10:15 KJV)? Their "third generation" were permitted conditional entrance among the Israelites. Didn't Abraham, seeking a burial site among the Hittites, give and receive noble respect to and from Ephron, the Hittite in Genesis 23:3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16? So, I get the impression the Hittites certainly went astray, by and large. But, those two occasions suggest a case and point that all didn't go astray. I suggest the Hittite descendants via Esau's two wives found grace in the eyes of the Lord (Genesis 6:8, 9) who conditionally commanded entrance among the Israelites. And, this leads up to your notable point following,
The same goes after the cross where the covenant people of God are those who have come into the new covenant inaugurated by Christ, and there is no other way to become a true Israelite of the new creation.
Agreed. Now a "true Israelite" has a Spiritual basis. In retrospect, I hear no basis for Spiritual entry into the house of Israel, only physical entry, and those exclusions and inclusions are mentioned above.
So explain how it was that Uriah the Hittite was a righteous Israelite?
2Sa 11:11 And Uriah said unto David, The ark, and Israel, and Judah, abide in tents; and my lord Joab, and the servants of my lord, are encamped in the open fields; shall I then go into mine house, to eat and to drink, and to lie with my wife? as thou livest, and as thy soul liveth, I will not do this thing.
Very good point, LA!
Undoubtedly, Uriah was a very devout soldier. I almost get the impression Uriah knew David did the tango with his wife. Anyway... there is no ancestral history to Uriah, other than he was a Hittite... and, although Uriah's dedication was exemplary, please reflect again on the conditional entrance provided Esau's two Hittite wives' third generation into the house of Israel. That case opened the conditional door for certain generation Hittites, who maintained the same condition of Deuteronomy 23:9 KJV, to enter the Israelite congregation. My point being: there were flesh qualifications BEFORE there were marriage/covenants with certain Hittites. Most certainly, few found the door, while others went astray. I can only conclude Uriah met the flesh condition, and his dedication corroborated such.
Now, take a look again at my prior post:
Do you have any notion where those folk who claimed to be Jews, and were not, came from, LA? What was their ancestry since 'they' were Abraham's seed (John 8:37 KJV), but 'they' were not Israelite (John 8:33 KJV)? 'They' were "Abraham's seed" (John 8:33 KJV, John 8:37 KJV). 'They' just weren't "Abraham's children" (John 8:39 KJV). Paul hinted at this distinction in Romans 9:6, 7. Moses said Abraham's 'progeny' via Keturah were "the children of Keturah" (Genesis 25:1, 2, 3, 4.) Wasn't Judah's Canaanitess wife (1Chronicles 2:3 KJV) the daughter of Shuah (Genesis 38:1, 2)? Wasn't Judah's father-in-law Shuah the son of Keturah, wife of Abraham (Genesis 25:1, 2, 3, 4)? Who were those who instigated the crucifixion:
"We be Abraham's seed and were never in bondage to any man..." (John 8:33 KJV).
'They' were "Abrahams' seed" (John 8:37 KJV), LA. 'They' just weren't "Abraham's children" (John 8:39 KJV). Neither were the 'progeny' of Abraham via Keturah "Abraham's children", they were "the children of Keturah" (Genesis 25:4 KJV).
You're a knowledgeable fellow LA, obviously well-read. Can you put an ancestral title on 'them'? Can you put an ancestral title on the descendants of Judah, then?
Those non-Israelites (John 8:33 KJV) who instigated the crucifixion (John 8:37 KJV) were the Canaanite/Shelanite descendants of Judah (Numbers 26:20 KJV) and his Canaanitess wife (Genesis 38:2, 1Chronicles 2:3). The Shelanites hid behind the title "Jew", and "Pharisee", and the Shelanites were the impostors of Revelation 2:9, 3:9... check my homework! Let me know...
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