Who is the Lord of the Sabbath

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Exodus 20:10 King James Version (KJV)

10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

Matthew 12:8 King James Version (KJV)

8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

Mark 2:28 King James Version (KJV)

28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Luke 6:5 King James Version (KJV)

5 And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
 
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Bright Raven said:
Exodus 20:10 King James Version (KJV)

10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

Matthew 12:8 King James Version (KJV)

8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

Mark 2:28 King James Version (KJV)

28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Luke 6:5 King James Version (KJV)

5 And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
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The Son of Man, who, according to our concept of one directional time, is still currently developing within the body of mankind, just as mankind was developed within the body of the proto-human animals.

It was he, who came down from his heights in time and filled the man Jesus with his spirit, and revealed himself through the words and miracles that he spoke and performed through his obedient servant.

Our God, The Son of Man, the MOST HIGH in the creation, who ceased to be an individual entity, when he abandoned Jesus on the cross, and released the spirits upon which he, the chosen cornerstone had developed, which spirits rose from their graves, and three days later entered the city of Jerusalem and showed themselves to many.

It is they, the risen body of the anointed one, who will take the earthly thrones that have been prepared for them, and with the heavenly Jesus who was chosen as the son and successor of the CHRIST, who now sits in his heavenly throne, they will rule the great Sabbath of one thousand years.
 
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Mark 2:27 KJV
(27) And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
 
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Just who is the Son of Man?

I was watching in the night, visions and behold, One like the Son of Man coming with the clouds of heaven! He came to the Ancient of Days and they brought Him near before Him. Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him.

His dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and His kingdom the one which shall not be destroyed. (Daniel 7:13-14)​
 
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The weekly Sabbath foreshadows the millennial Sabbath.

Those who ignore the weekly Sabbath will be ignored for the millennial Sabbath.

It's like Paul said, some people esteem every day alike, but not the Spirit who mandated it. The Sabbath is an integral part of his creation for humanity.
 
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jamie said:
The weekly Sabbath foreshadows the millennial Sabbath.

Those who ignore the weekly Sabbath will be ignored for the millennial Sabbath.

It's like Paul said, some people esteem every day alike, but not the Spirit who mandated it. The Sabbath is an integral part of his creation for humanity.
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The weekly Sabbath is to trust in Jesus every day of the week, noob!
 
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jamie said:
The weekly Sabbath foreshadows the millennial Sabbath.

Those who ignore the weekly Sabbath will be ignored for the millennial Sabbath.

It's like Paul said, some people esteem every day alike, but not the Spirit who mandated it. The Sabbath is an integral part of his creation for humanity.
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Paul was talking about esteeming certain days to eat or not eat to the Lord...you know, fasting.

It was a doubtful thing they were arguing out in Romans 14...Sabbath is hardly a doubtful thing...and thus not even mentioned even referenced as a day to worship on in that entire chapter...
 
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The weekly Sabbath is to trust in Jesus every day of the week, noob!
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Yup...trust Him to show you how to live and love others...with a love that fulfills the Law...imagine that...

Follow Him His way and you will love with a love unlike any pagan or sadly most Christians...

A Way that is peculiar and distinct which sets believers apart sanctified and on the narrow path...
 
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jamie said:
The weekly Sabbath foreshadows the millennial Sabbath.

Those who ignore the weekly Sabbath will be ignored for the millennial Sabbath.

It's like Paul said, some people esteem every day alike, but not the Spirit who mandated it. The Sabbath is an integral part of his creation for humanity.
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Once the reality had been revealed the shadow can be done away with. Therefore let no one judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a festival, a New Moon, or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, etc.
 
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Therefore let no one judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a festival, a New Moon, or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, etc.
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If we judge ourselves then we need not be judged. Scripture is the standard by which we are to judge ourselves.

The kingdom is not based on food and drink, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.

Scripture defines righteousness, not men.
 
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S-word said:
Once the reality had been revealed the shadow can be done away with. Therefore let no one judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a festival, a New Moon, or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, etc.
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So you wish to do away with the Law which points out sin and now the shadows which point to the good things to come...why?

Yes let no one judge you...but the body of Christ...the church

http://www.cogwriter.com/news/churc...sons-more-do-not-keep-the-biblical-holy-days/

They were keeping the Sabbath and others were judging them for it...
 
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Who is this cogwriter? What do you know about him or her? Or is it a group?
 
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clefty said:
So you wish to do away with the Law which points out sin and now the shadows which point to the good things to come...why?

Yes let no one judge you...but the body of Christ...the church

http://www.cogwriter.com/news/churc...sons-more-do-not-keep-the-biblical-holy-days/

They were keeping the Sabbath and others were judging them for it...
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Colossians 2:16-17 W/H
16 μη ουν τις υμας κρινετω εν βρωσει και εν ποσει η εν μερει εορτης η νεομηνιας η σαββατων
16 Therefore let none of you judge in food and in drink, or in partiality to the feasts, or new months [neo-menias (months)], or sabbaton: [which are both "weeks" and-or shabbatot-sabbaths]
17 α εστιν σκια των μελλοντων το δε σωμα του χριστου
17 which are [εστιν] a shadow of what is about to be, and-moreover [an elipsis of εστιν - moreover which are] the body of Messiah [which body in this sense is the body of the Word, the Torah, which contains these things].

"Therefore let none of you judge in food and drink, or in partiality to the feasts, or new months, or sabbaton-sabbaths-weeks: which are a shadow of what is about to be, which are moreover the body of Messiah."
 
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jamie said:
The weekly Sabbath foreshadows the millennial Sabbath.

Those who ignore the weekly Sabbath will be ignored for the millennial Sabbath.

It's like Paul said, some people esteem every day alike, but not the Spirit who mandated it. The Sabbath is an integral part of his creation for humanity.
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I hope no minds me putting this link here but this thread directly links to the topic of my thread which expands on this subject, I think you all might find it of interest: http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...of-the-Earth-connected-to-Jesus-second-coming
 
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Colossians 2:16-17 W/H
16 μη ουν τις υμας κρινετω εν βρωσει και εν ποσει η εν μερει εορτης η νεομηνιας η σαββατων
16 Therefore let none of you judge in food and in drink, or in partiality to the feasts, or new months [neo-menias (months)], or sabbaton: [which are both "weeks" and-or shabbatot-sabbaths]
17 α εστιν σκια των μελλοντων το δε σωμα του χριστου
17 which are [εστιν] a shadow of what is about to be, and-moreover [an elipsis of εστιν - moreover which are] the body of Messiah [which body in this sense is the body of the Word, the Torah, which contains these things].

"Therefore let none of you judge in food and drink, or in partiality to the feasts, or new months, or sabbaton-sabbaths-weeks: which are a shadow of what is about to be, which are moreover the body of Messiah."
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Yes yes and thanks...the next text gives further clues

"18Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,19 and not holding fast to the Head, from whom all the body, nourished and knit together by joints and ligaments, grows with the increase that is from God."

Those puffed up like the leavening of Pharisees...they were wishing to cheat and rob and judge...having rejected the Head

Not the Body of Christ...it maintained the right to preserve the traditions of that church begun in the wilderness...

There were unbelieving Jews which were all too willing to steal and rob goyim converts by insisting on works FOR salvation...even circumcision...wrong on both counts...

And circumcision FOR salvation or merely even to assemble with them to hear, as James put it, Moses read to them every Sabbath...again wrong on both counts...
 
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