I know I am alive. If you are reading this you are alive. Is it true that every person that ever lives will die? When Christ died many had yet to be conceived or born.Scriptures say:
NKJ 2 Corinthians 5:14 For the love of Christ compels us, because we judge thus: that if One died for all, then all died
So, did all die when Christ died?
Scriptures say:
NKJ 2 Corinthians 5:14 For the love of Christ compels us, because we judge thus: that if One died for all, then all died
So, did all die when Christ died?
Jamie, I do not understand what you mean. As the Prophets of the Most High were concerned, no one could die for the sins of another. (Jeremiah 31:30; Ezekiel 18:20) Therefore, Jesus did not die for all. And we all die because we have been born. That's as simple as that.
So then you believe as I do that ALL died with Christ. And for me, the ALL who died with Him includes the whole of Adam's race, no one exempted nor left out, because Christ died for every man. Heb 2:9. . .
So what is the nature of your question? What is the question you are asking about the verse you have quoted? Believing all scripture to be true, we know this verse is true.
So then you believe as I do that ALL died with Christ. And for me, the ALL who died with Him includes the whole of Adam's race, no one exempted nor left out, because Christ died for every man. Heb 2:9
But do you believe as I do that the ALL who died with Him when Christ died were also made alive TOGETHER with Him when He resurrected, as these verses say?:
NAS Ephesians 2:4-5 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved)
This fact was reiterated by Peter when he said that we were born again through the resurrection of Jesus:
1 Peter 1:3 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead
But since you believe all scripture to be true, I guess you believe as I do that ALL died with Him when He died and ALL were made alive TOGETHER with Him when He resurrected.
So then you believe as I do that ALL died with Christ. And for me, the ALL who died with Him includes the whole of Adam's race, no one exempted nor left out, because Christ died for every man. Heb 2:9
I don't. In fact, I teach all men are given faith, as Scriptures say. Rom 12:3Samie excludes faith from his doctrine.
According to Scriptures, not according to Samie. See Eccl 7:29According to him all people are born again the moment they are born into the world.
The born-again are those who God caused to be born again through the resurrection of Jesus from the dead. 1 Pet 1:3. And that includes you & me, as well as the gang banger.The gang banger out there pumping lead into the meth heads is born again according to him.
Did the golden calf die for anyone ?Jamie, I do not understand what you mean. As the Prophets of the Most High were concerned, no one could die for the sins of another. (Jeremiah 31:30; Ezekiel 18:20) Therefore, Jesus did not die for all. And we all die because we have been born. That's as simple as that.
The born-again are those who God caused to be born again through the resurrection of Jesus from the dead. 1 Pet 1:3. And that includes you & me, as well as the gang banger.
The gang banger is CAPABLE of overcoming evil with good, but he REFUSES to overcome it. Why is he capable? Because he is In Christ and he can do SOMETHING: he can overcome evil with good. Sadly, he REFUSES to.
That's what I was saying in the OP, but you REFUSE to understand.Sadly, that is not true. No one is "in" Christ unless the Father gives the person to Christ.
Scriptures say:
NKJ 2 Corinthians 5:14 For the love of Christ compels us, because we judge thus: that if One died for all, then all died
So, did all die when Christ died?
As a Christian I believe Jesus Christ was sinless and His on the cross took my sins away. Paul tells me that I am to die to sin. Baptism is a sign of dying to self/sin in the immersion. Then coming back up a new person in Christ
Ben, What was the sacrificial system commanded in Moses about?
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The sacrifices were about the prophetic Scapegoat aka Israel the Ten Tribes which would be taken by the Assyrians through the desert Eastward to Assyria. Then, after the event was fulfilled, the Jews continued with the sacrifices now in memory of the fulfilled event; just as even to this day, we celebrate the Passover in memory of the Exodus from Egypt about over four thousands years ago.
Looks like the Revelation of Jesus Christ in the above verses does not agree with you, Ben. And Isaiah, too. KJV Isaiah 53:1-12:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood
1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.