ECT WHI Israel was NOT CONVERTED ??

[DAN P]

Hi to all and why was Israel not converted during Jesus earthly ministry ?

Israel has been DOOMED since Isa 6:8-12 , don't you see !!

John 12:40 reads , He has blinded their EYES , and Hardened their Hearts , that they should not SEE with their EYES nor Understand with their Heart , and CONVERTED , and I should HEAL them !!

This is the Main reason for the prophecy of Isa 6:8-12 , and Matt 3:10 and Luke 13:6-9 !!

Acts 2 have refused to believe that Israel has been set aside at PENTECOST and Judgment was pronounced by Paul in Acts 13:46 and Acts 18:6 and in Acyts 28:28 !!

In John 12:40 the Greek verb " HARDENED " is in the Greek Perfect Tense , Active Voive and in the Indicative Mood of this FACT !!

The Perfect Tense speaks to the time of Isa 6:8-12 and Matt 3:10 and to John 12:40 and until Israel will be CONVERTED at the end of the Great Tribulation and enter the Kingdom of Heaven or what is called the Millennium where all Jews will be Kings and Priests , Rev 1:4 and Ex 19:6 !!

What Acts 2 people do not see is that God had a plan for Gentiles , for their salvation , with a New Apostle and A New Gospel called the Mystery , Col 1:25-27 and Col 1:25 was to COMPLETE the word of God !!

The Greek word CONVERTED , G1994 , means to to cause to return return to the Love of God !!

Today there are NO Jews or Gentiles in the Body of Christ NOR bond or Free NOR Male nor Female , Gal 3:28 as we ARE/ESTE " IN Christ " forever or OSAS !!

PENTECOST was set aside , make no mistake !!

DAN P

 

[Angel4Truth]

Hi to all and why was Israel not converted during Jesus earthly ministry ?

Isaiah 49:6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

Acts 13:47
For this is what the Lord has commanded us: "'I have made you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.'"

Romans 11:11 I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? May it never be! But by their transgression salvation has come to the Gentiles, to make them jealous.

 

[turbosixx]

Hi to all and why was Israel not converted during Jesus earthly ministry ?

Israel has been DOOMED since Isa 6:8-12 , don't you see !!

John 12:40 reads , He has blinded their EYES , and Hardened their Hearts , that they should not SEE with their EYES nor Understand with their Heart , and CONVERTED , and I should HEAL them !!

This is the Main reason for the prophecy of Isa 6:8-12 , and Matt 3:10 and Luke 13:6-9 !!

Acts 2 have refused to believe that Israel has been set aside at PENTECOST and Judgment was pronounced by Paul in Acts 13:46 and Acts 18:6 and in Acyts 28:28 !!

In John 12:40 the Greek verb " HARDENED " is in the Greek Perfect Tense , Active Voive and in the Indicative Mood of this FACT !!

The Perfect Tense speaks to the time of Isa 6:8-12 and Matt 3:10 and to John 12:40 and until Israel will be CONVERTED at the end of the Great Tribulation and enter the Kingdom of Heaven or what is called the Millennium where all Jews will be Kings and Priests , Rev 1:4 and Ex 19:6 !!

What Acts 2 people do not see is that God had a plan for Gentiles , for their salvation , with a New Apostle and A New Gospel called the Mystery , Col 1:25-27 and Col 1:25 was to COMPLETE the word of God !!

The Greek word CONVERTED , G1994 , means to to cause to return return to the Love of God !!

Today there are NO Jews or Gentiles in the Body of Christ NOR bond or Free NOR Male nor Female , Gal 3:28 as we ARE/ESTE " IN Christ " forever or OSAS !!

PENTECOST was set aside , make no mistake !!

DAN P

What you fail to see or refuse to see is "who" is Israel. What does the bible say?

Rom. 9:6 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel; 7 nor are they all children because they are Abraham's descendants, but: "through Isaac your descendants will be named." 8 That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are regarded as descendants.


What was the promise referring to, a nation or an individual?
Gal. 3:16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, "And to seeds," as referring to many, but rather to one, "And to your seed," that is, Christ.

In Christ Christians meet the requirements of being a Jew and are spiritually Israel.
Gal. 3:29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's descendants, heirs according to promise.
Col. 2:11 and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ;

Jews on Pentecost were being saved. Not as Jews but as Christians.
Acts 2:47 praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord was adding to their number day by day those who were being saved.

As the church, ekklhsian:
Acts 5:11 And great fear came over the whole church, and over all who heard of these things.

Do you read the bible to understand truth or to prove what you think?

 

[Danoh]

What you fail to see or refuse to see is "who" is Israel. What does the bible say?

Rom. 9:6 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel; 7 nor are they all children because they are Abraham's descendants, but: "through Isaac your descendants will be named." 8 That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are regarded as descendants.


What was the promise referring to, a nation or an individual?
Gal. 3:16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, "And to seeds," as referring to many, but rather to one, "And to your seed," that is, Christ.

In Christ Christians meet the requirements of being a Jew and are spiritually Israel.
Gal. 3:29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's descendants, heirs according to promise.
Col. 2:11 and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ;

Jews on Pentecost were being saved. Not as Jews but as Christians.
Acts 2:47 praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord was adding to their number day by day those who were being saved.

As the church, ekklhsian:
Acts 5:11 And great fear came over the whole church, and over all who heard of these things.

Do you read the bible to understand truth or to prove what you think?

Yep, that is exactly what you make the Bible say.

 

[turbosixx]

Yep, that is exactly what you make the Bible say.

Ok

 

[jamie]

In Christ Christians meet the requirements of being a Jew and are spiritually Israel.
Gal. 3:29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's descendants, heirs according to promise.

We should keep in mind that Abraham was not a Jew. Neither was Isaac, Jacob or Judah.

The State of Israel's Law of Return:

The Law of Return
July 5, 1950

Amendment No. 2 5730-1970*
1. In the Law of Return, 5710-1950**, the following sections shall be inserted after section 4:

4B. For the purposes of this Law, "Jew" means a person who was born of a Jewish mother or has become converted to Judaism and who is not a member of another religion."​

 

[1Mind1Spirit]

Luke 3:8 KJV


8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

 

[jamie]

We should also keep in mind that Moses was not a Jew. He was a Levite by birth and a follower of Christ by religion.

For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. (1 Corinthians 10:4 NKJV)​

 

[andyc]

Today there are NO Jews or Gentiles in the Body of Christ NOR bond or Free NOR Male nor Female , Gal 3:28 as we ARE/ESTE " IN Christ " forever or OSAS !!

PENTECOST was set aside , make no mistake !!

DAN P

Pentecost is the reason why there is no Jew or gentile. Circumcision of the heart not done by any human hand.

Dispensationlists are so dumb sometimes it defies belief.

 

[tetelestai]

Dispensationlists are so dumb sometimes it defies belief.

:chuckle:

What would we do without the Darby followers (Dispensationalists)?

 

[turbosixx]

Dispensationlists are so dumb sometimes it defies belief.

I agree. My theory is its too simple for them and believing what it says is for simpletons. In order to feel special, they have the "knowledge" to tell us what it “really” says. If you disagree, they throw rocks because you’re stupid.

 

[tetelestai]

I agree. My theory is its too simple for them and believing what it says is for simpletons. In order to feel special, they have the "knowledge" to tell us what it “really” says. If you disagree, they throw rocks because you’re stupid.

You forgot how they tell everyone who doesn't agree with them that they don't know how to "rightly divide"

 

[Livelystone]

What you fail to see or refuse to see is "who" is Israel. What does the bible say?

Rom. 9:6 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel; 7 nor are they all children because they are Abraham's descendants, but: "through Isaac your descendants will be named." 8 That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are regarded as descendants.


What was the promise referring to, a nation or an individual?
Gal. 3:16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, "And to seeds," as referring to many, but rather to one, "And to your seed," that is, Christ.

In Christ Christians meet the requirements of being a Jew and are spiritually Israel.
Gal. 3:29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's descendants, heirs according to promise.
Col. 2:11 and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ;

Jews on Pentecost were being saved. Not as Jews but as Christians.
Acts 2:47 praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord was adding to their number day by day those who were being saved.

As the church, ekklhsian:
Acts 5:11 And great fear came over the whole church, and over all who heard of these things.

Do you read the bible to understand truth or to prove what you think?

Good post :thumb:

 

[turbosixx]

You forgot how they tell everyone who doesn't agree with them that they don't know how to "rightly divide"

You right, my bad. Do they really think rigthly divide means to separate?

 

[glorydaz]

Dispensationlists are so dumb sometimes it defies belief.

:chuckle:

What would we do without the Darby followers (Dispensationalists)?

I agree. My theory is its too simple for them and believing what it says is for simpletons. In order to feel special, they have the "knowledge" to tell us what it “really” says. If you disagree, they throw rocks because you’re stupid.

Oh, the irony. :chuckle:

 

[steko]

Oh, the irony. :chuckle:

Indeed! :dizzy:

 

[andyc]

Oh, the irony. :chuckle:

Indeed! :dizzy:

In hindsight it was harsh to say "dispensationalists" are so dumb sometimes, because 99.9% of them wouldn't actually believe the rhubarb in the OP.
It's just that his post was aimed at Acts 2 people, which is nearly all of christendom.

To say that pentecost has been put on hold, is to say that there is no work of the Holy Spirit today. The transforming of the natural man to the spiritual man no longer happens. The lengths people will go to, and the absolute junk they will come out with in order to separate jew and gentile is perplexing. The junk in the OP is cultish to say the least.

 

[1Mind1Spirit]

To say that pentecost has been put on hold, is to say that there is no work of the Holy Spirit today. The transforming of the natural man to the spiritual man no longer happens.

They will say that he does then deny it in the same breath.

:doh:

 

[DAN P]

They will say that he does then deny it in the same breath.

:doh:

Hi and will you explain why Pentcost did not continue and WHY is not the 12 apostles sitting on 12 thrones judging Israel OR why Jesus is NOT now sitting on David's throne ??

I believe 1 Cor 12:13 and that means we believe in the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit !!

Answer the OP and stop WHINNING !!

dan p

 

[1Mind1Spirit]

Hi and will you explain why Pentcost did not continue and WHY is not the 12 apostles sitting on 12 thrones judging Israel OR why Jesus is NOT now sitting on David's throne ??

dan p

Jesus is on that throne.

If you knew that earth is yer body not some place over in the middle east you'd know about that throne of which David's was a type.

As far as the Apostles go, you have no idea what their jobs in heaven are right now.