Where Is Mother Teresa Now?

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John 5:24 . . Amen, amen, I say to you: whoever hears my word, and believes in the one who sent me, has eternal life and will not come to condemnation, but has passed from death to life.

Heb 11:6 . .Without faith it is impossible to please Him, for anyone who approaches God must believe that He exists

According to Teresa's private letters; written to spiritual counselors during her five decades in India, she was never really sure there's a God out there.

Teresa's deplorable spiritual condition is shocking, and very difficult to believe, but it's a matter of public record now in a book called:

Mother Teresa / Come Be My Light
The Private Writings of the "Saint of Calcutta"

Edited with commentary by Brian Kolodiejchuk, M.C.
ISBN 978-0-385-52037-9

Father Kolodiejchuk is not one of Teresa's enemies. When the book was published, he was director of the Mother Teresa Center and a postulator for her sainthood.

In reality Teresa was an agnostic; which can be defined as a person who does not have a definite belief about whether God exists or not.

Well; according to John 5:24 and Heb 11:6, agnostics should prepare themselves for the worst when they cross over to the other side. I've no doubt Rome's theologians know this but went ahead and canonized her anyway.

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Interesting.... and terribly sad.
If she was not a saint before she passed away, she certainly is not one today.
(Acts 9:13, Acts 9:32, Acts 26:10, Phil. 4:21 ETC) 'Saints' in God's Word are referred to as the body of believers.
 

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Oh great, yet another self righteous grave dancing thread...

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No grave dancing at all. I don't know if Mother Theresa had accepted Christ as her Savior or not... I sure hope she placed her life in His hands. But, if the OP is correct, it is sad that she might have lived as a hypocrite... serving a Redeemer she did believe in.
 

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John 5:24 . . Amen, amen, I say to you: whoever hears my word, and believes in the one who sent me, has eternal life and will not come to condemnation, but has passed from death to life.

Heb 11:6 . .Without faith it is impossible to please Him, for anyone who approaches God must believe that He exists

According to Teresa's private letters; written to spiritual counselors during her five decades in India, she was never really sure there's a God out there.

Teresa's deplorable spiritual condition is shocking, and very difficult to believe, but it's a matter of public record now in a book called:

Mother Teresa / Come Be My Light
The Private Writings of the "Saint of Calcutta"

Edited with commentary by Brian Kolodiejchuk, M.C.
ISBN 978-0-385-52037-9

Father Kolodiejchuk is not one of Teresa's enemies. When the book was published, he was director of the Mother Teresa Center and a postulator for her sainthood.

In reality Teresa was an agnostic; which can be defined as a person who does not have a definite belief about whether God exists or not.

Well; according to John 5:24 and Heb 11:6, agnostics should prepare themselves for the worst when they cross over to the other side. I've no doubt Rome's theologians know this but went ahead and canonized her anyway.

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There is no God out there seeing the kingdom is within man Luke 17:20-21, you are no better off if you think there is, And at least she was honest about doubting the exoteric claims that fail the test seeing it kills the spiritual intent of the message 2Cor 3:6.
 

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No grave dancing at all. I don't know if Mother Theresa had accepted Christ as her Savior or not... I sure hope she placed her life in His hands. But, if the OP is correct, it is sad that she might have lived as a hypocrite... serving a Redeemer she did believe in.

You wanna try seeing the OP's other threads where he/she *speculates* about other people being in "hell". Then again sick & hell doctrines tend to tie in with each other...
 

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Many Christians will say she'll be in heaven based on her good works

Heb 11:6 . .Without faith it is impossible to please Him, for anyone who approaches God must believe that He exists

The word "must" indicates an essential requirement.

The word "impossible" indicates something that simply cannot be done; viz: there's no way around it.

Seeing as how Teresa was never really convinced there's a God out there, then nothing she did during the whole fifty years abroad as a missionary pleased God; viz: as a spiritual journey, none of it counted.

Teresa complained of being abandoned by Christ and referred to him as "the absent one". She also complained that "the place of God in my soul is blank-- there is no God in me" and "I am told God loves me; and yet the reality of darkness & coldness & emptiness is so great that nothing touches my soul."

That right there tells me Teresa was grossly insubordinate.

John 14:18 . . I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.

John 14:23 . . Whoever loves me will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our dwelling with him.

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Nanja

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Where Is Mother Teresa Now?

She is where God's Will determined her to be:

Dan. 4:35
And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?

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freelight

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Still devoting her time and will for God..........

Still devoting her time and will for God..........

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Only 'God' knows where Mother Teresa is, and she will carry on by the laws of the universe which govern the soul's condition and destiny. All are judged according to their works and these are mediated by the law of karma (sowing and reaping). Yet all things are ultimately resolved/absolved by 'God', who is infinite love.

Now as far as her trials, doubts, dark nights of the soul, despairing times, many saints have gone thru this for don't saints to some measure share in the sufferings of Christ?, and even take on the suffering of others to a degree? Her tireless work and ministry for the poor and suffering is amazing and her charity and sisterhood continues to this day, helping those in dire need, who are mostly rejected by the rest of the world. She was plunged into the depths of human suffering and served as God's hand's and voice to those in the most abject conditions. Apparently she walked the walk, going all the way for Jesus, even if she went thru a 'dark night of the soul' (for however many years), she was still faithful to her calling.

Media misrepresents 'spiritual desert' of Blessed Theresa of Calcutta

Mother Teresa’s Crisis of Faith (Time Magazine, David Van Biema, Aug. 23, 2007)

I think Teresa's words here tell all -

If this brings You glory–if souls are brought to you–with joy I accept all to the end of my life.

–TO JESUS, UNDATED
 

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John 5:24 . . Amen, amen, I say to you: whoever hears my word, and believes in the one who sent me, has eternal life and will not come to condemnation, but has passed from death to life.

Heb 11:6 . .Without faith it is impossible to please Him, for anyone who approaches God must believe that He exists

According to Teresa's private letters; written to spiritual counselors during her five decades in India, she was never really sure there's a God out there.

Teresa's deplorable spiritual condition is shocking, and very difficult to believe, but it's a matter of public record now in a book called:

Mother Teresa / Come Be My Light
The Private Writings of the "Saint of Calcutta"

Edited with commentary by Brian Kolodiejchuk, M.C.
ISBN 978-0-385-52037-9

Father Kolodiejchuk is not one of Teresa's enemies. When the book was published, he was director of the Mother Teresa Center and a postulator for her sainthood.

In reality Teresa was an agnostic; which can be defined as a person who does not have a definite belief about whether God exists or not.

Well; according to John 5:24 and Heb 11:6, agnostics should prepare themselves for the worst when they cross over to the other side. I've no doubt Rome's theologians know this but went ahead and canonized her anyway.

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Post what she said in her letters.

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John 5:24 . . Amen, amen, I say to you: whoever hears my word, and believes in the one who sent me, has eternal life and will not come to condemnation, but has passed from death to life.

Seeing as how Teresa seriously doubted the existence of God, then she failed to "believe in the one who sent me". That being the case, then according to Christ's testimony-- as an expert witness in all matters pertaining to Christianity --Teresa does not have eternal life, and she will be condemned at the great white throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15 where her works as a missionary will not be used as evidence on her behalf, but actually as evidence in the prosecution's case against her. Why? Because her works were not done in faith.

Ironically, a demon's level of faith is actually superior to Teresa's. At least they believe in the existence of God.

Jas 2:19-20 . . You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe-- and tremble!

I simply cannot approve a missionary whose iffy belief in the existence of God doesn't even measure up to the quality of a demon's belief.

Matt 7:22-23 . . Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Master, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them: I never knew you. Depart from me, you that work iniquity.

Christ's statement doesn't target Atheists, nor Hindus, nor Buddhists, nor Muslims. No, it targets people professing to have prophesied in "thy name" and to have exorcised demons in "thy name" and to have done many wonderful works in "thy name". In other words: the Lord's statement targets Christians-- and not just your average rank and file pew warmers either, rather, it targets the cream of the crop; the celebrities of the Christian world; renowned for their accomplishments, their piety, their perseverance, their love, their influence, and their dedication.

For example: Christians who pray up a storm, publish books, pioneer churches, seminaries and Christian schools, chair Sunday school classes, pound pulpits, sing in the choir, champion civil rights, travel the world, speak to crowds, win accolades, initiate charities, achieve sainthood, and operate hostels and orphanages in impoverished cities.

It is to many of those kinds of Christian superstars that the Lord will say "I never knew you." Why? Because though they were busy as bees, ants, and termites in Christian service capacities; they were in it for themselves rather than in it for Christ. In other words: they were ambitious instead of obedient.

How do I know that Teresa was disobedient? That's easy. When people are compliant with Christ's wishes, he keeps them company.

John 14:18 . . I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.

John 14:23 . . Whoever loves me will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our dwelling with him.

Did Jesus and his Father make their dwelling with Teresa and express their love for her in ways she could understand and appreciate? No; that poor woman endured virtually five decades yearning for even the slightest glimmer of their presence.

Had Teresa's spiritual counselors been on the ball they would have immediately suggested that maybe it wasn't God's will for her to be in India and that's why He and Christ were avoiding her. In other words: their absence was a "dew on the fleece" that Teresa had parted company with them somewhere back down the line at a critical point in her spiritual journey.

1John 1:3 . .What we have seen and heard we proclaim now to you, so that you too may have fellowship with us; for our fellowship is with the Father and with His son, Jesus Christ.

What does that tell you? Well; it tells me that Teresa was either untrained in the apostle's proclamations, or figured she could get by without them because her fellowship with the Father and with His son Jesus Christ was zero.

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Towards the end of her life, Teresa began to worry that if there be God, he might not like her, and might actually be quite inclined to condemn her. What's wrong with that picture? Well; I'll tell you what's wrong.

According to the Holy Bible-- which Roman Catholicism holds in very high regard --God has a supernatural way of assuring His own that He does in fact exist and that they are not abandoned.

John 14:16-18 . . I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Counselor to be with you forever-- the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for He lives with you and will be in you. I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.

Rom 8:16 . .The Spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,

The Greek word for "bears witness" means to corroborate; which Webster's defines as: to support with evidence.

It's possible to short circuit the corroboration process.

1Ths 5:19 . . Do not quench the Spirit.

How does one quench the Spirit? Well . . the better question is: How did the most dedicated Catholic nun the twentieth century ever produced manage to quench Him? If the most pious role model in the modern Catholic world could quench God's Spirit for virtually five decades, then where does that leave John Q and Jane Doe pew warmer?

2Cor 13:5 . . Examine yourselves to see whether you are living in faith. Test yourselves. Do you not realize that Jesus Christ is in you? --unless, of course, you fail the test.

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'Faith' in the hot seat.......

'Faith' in the hot seat.......

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Towards the end of her life, Teresa began to worry that if there be God, he might not like her, and might actually be quite inclined to condemn her. What's wrong with that picture? Well; I'll tell you what's wrong.

According to the Holy Bible-- which Roman Catholicism holds in very high regard --God has a supernatural way of assuring His own that He does in fact exist and that they are not abandoned.

John 14:16-18 . . I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Counselor to be with you forever-- the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for He lives with you and will be in you. I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.

Rom 8:16 . .The Spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,

The Greek word for "bears witness" means to corroborate; which Webster's defines as: to support with evidence.

It's possible to short circuit the corroboration process.

1Ths 5:19 . . Do not quench the Spirit.

How does one quench the Spirit? Well . . the better question is: How did the most dedicated Catholic nun the twentieth century ever produced manage to quench Him? If the most pious role model in the modern Catholic world could quench God's Spirit for virtually five decades, then where does that leave John Q and Jane Doe pew warmer?

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I suppose each has their own individual experience that runs the whole gamut of feeling God's presence to NOT feeling God is present,....that's life. Do you wake up every day and spend every moment of your existence feeling God's presence? God is already the omnipresent all subsuming reality,....all else is relative and just a continuous flux of perceptions and sensations. But 'God' is the one primal reality, no matter if we sense 'God' or not (spiritually or otherwise). One can enter into varied states of communion with God in the Spirit, but so many factors might condition or affect such a 'rapport'.

Were there not moments of communion, ecstasy or joy in Teresa's life, or was it all a burdensome religious toil, to serve Jesus thru serving the poor and afflicted during the last decades of her life? What power enabled her to continue the ministry? Was it all a farce? I might re-evaluate your 'assumption' of her life in the total context of 'Christianity' and how its evolved or 'morphed' over the centuries and look at 'spirituality' from a more universal perspective from all world religions and human psychology itself, before rendering judgments. - whadya know.....maybe there isn't a 'God' after all, and we are all merely individual potentialized expressions of some primordial reality we call 'God', and its US who make this a 'heaven' or 'hell'. In other words, we make for ourselves our own 'heaven' or 'hell' by love or fear, and this goes for this life and any life, anywhere, as long as we are conscious.

This just might make us question any devotion or commitment to 'God' or a religious goal or mission, eh?
 

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For your stanking body - but not the soul !!

The soul does not exist independently of the body. The soul is only the combination of a body with the breath of life. When the Creator formed man from the dust of the earth,He breathed into his nostrils and man became a living soul. (Genesis 2:7) To become is to be, not to have. We don't have souls; we are souls. At death, the body goes back to the dust and the breath of life goes back to God Who gave it. (Ecclesiastes 12:7) This "going back to God" is an embellishment to enhance the honor of God. The literal meaning is that the breath of life "goes with the wind." I know, people don't like this message because they prefer to live in the hope of treats as rewards for doing good or for obeying the Law, no matter the fact that treats are for dogs, not humans with Freewill.
 
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