Luke 18:31 Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. 18:32 For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: 18:33 And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. 18:34 And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.
Why their failure?
After all, He had said unto them...
Luke 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.
Why their failure then?
Luke 9:45 But they understood not this saying, and it was hid from them, that they perceived it not: and they feared to ask him of that saying.
Focused on the cares and concerns the reasoning of men focuses on, it did not dawn on them to simply ask Him....
After all, they'd been simple fisherman.
Mark 9:30 And they departed thence, and passed through Galilee; and he would not that any man should know it. 9:31 For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day. 9:32 But they understood not that saying, and were afraid to ask him. 9:33 And he came to Capernaum: and being in the house he asked them, What was it that ye disputed among yourselves by the way? 9:34 But they held their peace: for by the way they had disputed among themselves, who should be the greatest. 9:35 And he sat down, and called the twelve, and saith unto them, If any man desire to be first, the same shall be last of all, and servant of all.
They had failed to understand what He had meant, due to what they tended to focus on.
And when a person does not understand what a person means by their words because he is distracted by his own thoughts or whatever; said meaning is hid from them, as a result.
Something else to consider...
I'm not sure how other Bibles word things, as I study out of a KJV.
But in the KJV, often, what was meant by a word or a phrase, is defined either in the same passage, or one near it, by saying the same thing in a different way.
As a result, what is meant in the above by "hid from them" is actually defined twice in the passage.
Once before that, and once after that.
Luke 18:34 And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.
In other words, they had been unable to grasp the meaning of His Words.
As when someone says a thing, and because we fail to grasp their intended meaning, it remains hidden to us, until we ask for clarification.
"I'm sorry" we say "I'm not seeing what you are getting at..."
And as we saw in the above; they failed to ask Him.
That is what "and this saying was hid from them" is referring to - neither knew they - the things which were spoken - they did not understand what the heck He was talking about.
A further thought on the KJV and these issues.
"I do you to wit" that it is not "6th Grade English."
Let alone, North American LATER Modern English.
Ar best, it is 7th through Senior High School English - in the sense of when all those rules of grammar are actually both learned, and mastered "by reason of use."
And then there is the issue that the EARLY Modern English of the KJV was not only a much earlier, a MEDIEVAL...BRITTISH English, but one still greatly developing those 500 years ago - and an English; the rules of Grammar and Punctuation of which have changed somewhat, over time.
Solution?
That is what a resource like Bible Hub is for, together with "the whole counsel of God"- Acts 20:27
Nehemiah 8:8 So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading.
There you find all the rules of grammar even just one word is following.
Luke 18:34
http://biblehub.com/interlinear/luke/18-34.htm
Besides, Jesus was not talking about that Mystery truth He later revealed to and through the Apostle Paul.
He was talking about "the mysteries of the kingdom...of Israel" - Luke 8:10; John 1:49.
He was in His role of "Jesus...son of David" - Mark 10:47
Even many years later, in 1 Cor. chapters 1 thru 3; Paul laments he had only been able to teach the Corinthians about Christ having died for theirs sins.
How that due to their immaturity, he had not been unable go beyond and into the Mystery - the Body's glory - the Cross had also made possible.
Which is the issue of the Cross' reconciling back unto the Father (via the Body that the Cross had also made possible), those fallen High Places in the Heavenlies presently inhabited by that spiritual wickedness in said High Places, that the Body will one day reign over, and judge God's Angels from.
Why their failure?
After all, He had said unto them...
Luke 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.
Why their failure then?
Luke 9:45 But they understood not this saying, and it was hid from them, that they perceived it not: and they feared to ask him of that saying.
Focused on the cares and concerns the reasoning of men focuses on, it did not dawn on them to simply ask Him....
After all, they'd been simple fisherman.
Mark 9:30 And they departed thence, and passed through Galilee; and he would not that any man should know it. 9:31 For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day. 9:32 But they understood not that saying, and were afraid to ask him. 9:33 And he came to Capernaum: and being in the house he asked them, What was it that ye disputed among yourselves by the way? 9:34 But they held their peace: for by the way they had disputed among themselves, who should be the greatest. 9:35 And he sat down, and called the twelve, and saith unto them, If any man desire to be first, the same shall be last of all, and servant of all.
They had failed to understand what He had meant, due to what they tended to focus on.
And when a person does not understand what a person means by their words because he is distracted by his own thoughts or whatever; said meaning is hid from them, as a result.
Something else to consider...
I'm not sure how other Bibles word things, as I study out of a KJV.
But in the KJV, often, what was meant by a word or a phrase, is defined either in the same passage, or one near it, by saying the same thing in a different way.
As a result, what is meant in the above by "hid from them" is actually defined twice in the passage.
Once before that, and once after that.
Luke 18:34 And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.
In other words, they had been unable to grasp the meaning of His Words.
As when someone says a thing, and because we fail to grasp their intended meaning, it remains hidden to us, until we ask for clarification.
"I'm sorry" we say "I'm not seeing what you are getting at..."
And as we saw in the above; they failed to ask Him.
That is what "and this saying was hid from them" is referring to - neither knew they - the things which were spoken - they did not understand what the heck He was talking about.
A further thought on the KJV and these issues.
"I do you to wit" that it is not "6th Grade English."
Let alone, North American LATER Modern English.
Ar best, it is 7th through Senior High School English - in the sense of when all those rules of grammar are actually both learned, and mastered "by reason of use."
And then there is the issue that the EARLY Modern English of the KJV was not only a much earlier, a MEDIEVAL...BRITTISH English, but one still greatly developing those 500 years ago - and an English; the rules of Grammar and Punctuation of which have changed somewhat, over time.
Solution?
That is what a resource like Bible Hub is for, together with "the whole counsel of God"- Acts 20:27
Nehemiah 8:8 So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading.
There you find all the rules of grammar even just one word is following.
Luke 18:34
http://biblehub.com/interlinear/luke/18-34.htm
Besides, Jesus was not talking about that Mystery truth He later revealed to and through the Apostle Paul.
He was talking about "the mysteries of the kingdom...of Israel" - Luke 8:10; John 1:49.
He was in His role of "Jesus...son of David" - Mark 10:47
Even many years later, in 1 Cor. chapters 1 thru 3; Paul laments he had only been able to teach the Corinthians about Christ having died for theirs sins.
How that due to their immaturity, he had not been unable go beyond and into the Mystery - the Body's glory - the Cross had also made possible.
Which is the issue of the Cross' reconciling back unto the Father (via the Body that the Cross had also made possible), those fallen High Places in the Heavenlies presently inhabited by that spiritual wickedness in said High Places, that the Body will one day reign over, and judge God's Angels from.
