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Would it not be, innocence?
We must be born again.
John 3:3 New International Version (NIV)
3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.”
Being born again and being saved is the one and same event.
Jumping in on the topic.
A saved person gains:
Living eternally in the presence of God as he appears as our Lord Jesus and the Father.
Living eternally in our Lord's kingdom having a unique body that has been glorified and having unique characteristics that make each of us an individual.
Some people will be awarded for their works done within this this world in this flesh when their works glorified our Lord Jesus. Not sure what those awards will be ... but clues have been "crowns to lay at his feet" and "positions of authority."
Luke 22:20 Jesus says to his disciples:
And I (your Lord Jesus) appoint unto you (my followers) a kingdom, (just) as my Father hath appointed (a kingdom) unto me...
Since I read that passage I have a theory that I like to ponder.
I like to think about each "saved" person will have their own kingdom. I like to image what I would want in my personal kingdom. Of course, scripture does not say "every believer" will have their own kingom ... but it is a sweet thing to ponder.
Would it not be, innocence?
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INNOCENCE ?
Innocence of WHAT ?
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At the moment of Baptism and the Receiving the Holy Spirit
ALL YOUR P-A-S-T SINS ARE FORGIVEN AND WASHED AWAY .
Romans 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood,
to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past,
through the forbearance of God;
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Use scripture to support that.
You set the standard in your opening post.
You used no scripture in your title of in your post, why should I?
CROSSREF,
You asked the guy the question and now you are accusing him of positing.
tsk tsk CR.
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CROSS REF. Mr. Posit.
Just make your point and stop with the guessing game.
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Because you came against it without a reason and without knowledge?You set the standard in your opening post.
You used no scripture in your title of in your post, why should I?
Everything you have posited is man centered and not God centered. Is the new birth from above necessary for any of it except Lu 22:20?
Are you saying that I misunderstood the topic of the thread?
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What does the saved individual gain if he is born again?
Cross Reference, please explain to me where I went wrong with the topic?
I will admit that I was thinking about after this life and not in this world.
What is gained by being born again as opposed to just being saved?
Where are getting the idea I believe you said anything wrong??
You replied and I commented on it to be "man centered". You are entitled to you believe what you want. Where is the offense by me? Were my words harsh and nasty? What??
The topic is my based on my opinion as to how I perceive the new birth as not being necessary for salvation but for something on a grander scale in the intention of God for having created man.
So my question will remain: What is gained by being born again as opposed to just being saved?
So my question will remain: What is gained by being born again as opposed to just being saved?
So my question will remain: What is gained by being born again as opposed to just being saved?