I would like for someone (STP/John W) well versed in MAD to list the basics. I think it would be very helpful considering all the MAD threads in the religion forum.
I would like for someone (STP/John W) well versed in MAD to list the basics. I think it would be very helpful considering all the MAD threads in the religion forum.
I'm a simple man, and to me it's very simple.
1. The faithful of the OT inherit land, the earth.
2. The followers of the Lord's earthly ministry and his twelve apostles inherit a City
3. Paul's followers, made up of the fallen of Israel and the Gentiles, inherit the heavens.
Each group had their own instructions to live by, their own purpose, and their own inheritance.
In the end, all three will make up the whole household of God, the entire Kingdom of God.
I would like for someone (STP/John W) well versed in MAD to list the basics. I think it would be very helpful considering all the MAD threads in the religion forum.
It is a common mistake to mix it all together to make it appear as if it's all just reiteration. A dispensation of the gospel was committed to Paul (1 Corinthians 9:17 KJV) where Paul was sent to the Jew first and also to the Greek long before Paul became a prisoner of Jesus Christ for "you Gentiles" (Ephesians 3:1-2 KJV) like the Ephesians to whom Paul wrote the letter. Acts 20:24 KJV is about those things in which the Lord appeared to Paul, a second sending, a due time message.According to MAD the present dispensation of grace did not begin until sometime after Paul was converted. A "dispensation" is in regard to a "stewardship" that is given to man from God in order to carry out a specific task. Here are three quotes from the pen of Paul where he speaks of a "dispensation" that has been committed or given to him:
"If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me toward you" (Eph. 3:2).
"Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God" (Col.1:25).
"...a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me" (1 Cor.9:17).
The "dispensation" which was committed to Paul is in regard to "God's grace", a "ministry", and a "gospel." Here Paul sums up his dispensational responsibility:
"But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God" (Acts 20: 24).
This did not happen until Acts 13 so the present dispensation began at Acts 13.
It is a common mistake to mix it all together to make it appear as if it's all just reiteration. A dispensation of the gospel was committed to Paul (1 Corinthians 9:17 KJV) where Paul was sent to the Jew first and also to the Greek long before Paul became a prisoner of Jesus Christ for "you Gentiles" (Ephesians 3:1-2 KJV) like the Ephesians to whom Paul wrote the letter. Acts 20:24 KJV is about those things in which the Lord appeared to Paul, a second sending, a due time message.
Paul was sent to the Jew first and also to the Greek long before Paul became a prisoner of Jesus Christ for "you Gentiles" (Ephesians 3:1-2 KJV) like the Ephesians to whom Paul wrote the letter.
The gospel that was preached in John is NOT the same gospel that Paul preached as the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth for we know that Paul's gospel was a mystery (hidden in the scriptures Romans 16:25-27 KJV) at the time of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and the Bible tells us why! (1 Corinthians 2:6-8 KJV). It is Paul's "my gospel" (Romans 2:16 KJV, Romans 16:25 KJV, 2 Timothy 2:8 KJV), not Peter, James and John's (Galatians 1:11-12 KJV)!"For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth ; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek" (Ro.1:16).
The word "gospel" means good news or glad tidings.The "good news" of Christ which was preached to the Jews first was that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God. And those who believed that good news were saved when they believed it (1 Jn.5:1-5; Jn.20:30-31).
The gospel that was preached in John is NOT the same gospel that Paul preached as the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth for we know that Paul's gospel was a mystery (hidden in the scriptures Romans 16:25-27 KJV) at the time of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and the Bible tells us why! (1 Corinthians 2:6-8 KJV). It is Paul's "my gospel" (Romans 2:16 KJV, Romans 16:25 KJV, 2 Timothy 2:8 KJV), not Peter, James and John's (Galatians 1:11-12 KJV)!
The gospel of Christ is that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures and that He was buried and that He rose again the third day according to the scriptures (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV).
2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
I would like for someone (STP/John W) well versed in MAD to list the basics. I think it would be very helpful considering all the MAD threads in the religion forum.
So are you saying that John's words here have nothing to do with the fact that Christ died for our sins?
Paul was sent to the Jew first and also to the Greek for a purpose. And yes, Paul would preach in the synagogue opening that Jesus was the Christ, but also that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen again from the dead (Acts 17:3 KJV). That is the gospel of God, not the gospel of Christ. To show you that there was a difference, the Romans had a faith in the gospel of God (Romans 1:1-4 KJV) and yet Paul longed to see them that he may impart unto them some spiritual gift to the end they may be established;That is, that Paul would be comforted together with them by the mutual faith both of them and Paul.The "good news" of Christ was also the fact that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God. That was the "good news" of Christ which was first preached to the Jews.
You're the one who is confused. The one new man is the two groups in the one Body beginning with Paul. The twelve are not in the picture.You do not know how to divide it correctly because you put a division between the Twelve and those in the Body Of Christ despite the fact that Paul makes it plain that all are members of the New Man, the Body of Christ:
"For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby" (Eph.2:14-16).
Of course you just stick your head in the sand when confronted with passages from the Bible that contradict your ideas.