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What do you think?
Absolutely. Before the fall, he (and Eve) also possessed a quality of integrity that meant their flesh did not fight against or override their rational will as ours does.
that was easy
Of course he was. He was free and innocent. And then he rebelled by listening to his wife instead of God.
I contend that not only Adam and Eve but everyone who was created in the image of GOD must have been created ingenuously innocent with an ability to make free will decisions as the only consideration that fulfills HIS holy Name as the GOD who is love. All else misses the mark.
Starting with this as a base doctrine and interpreting all verses against this as the epitome of truth and you get a much different definition of reality than orthodoxy teaches which pays only lip service to HIS love and our creation.
Peace, Ted
I contend that not only Adam and Eve but everyone who was created in the image of GOD must have been created ingenuously innocent with an ability to make free will decisions as the only consideration that fulfills HIS holy Name as the GOD who is love.
Nevertheless, death reigned from Adam to Moses. By one man's offense, judgment came to all men.
2. Can you explain what you believe such "judgment" resulted in?
Death, separation from God.
OK. Now, open it up that it makes some sense. Who? What? Where did they reside in the afterwards of their death.
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That is how you should have started your thread. Adam was born free. All after him were born in bondage. You can not stand it. You want to do it yourself so people can say he did it. You just insist you are self righteous. Let you be accursed.
Nevertheless, death reigned from Adam to Moses. By one man's offense, judgment came to all men.
Judgement came, NOT sinfulness came!!! Judgment might come by their being sinful by their creation but since that is blasphemous to HIS good Name of Love, judgement could also come upon their own free will sin by their being born into ADAM'S JUDGEMENT ! which is actually what is said.
Peace, Ted