Uncritical Acceptance of Atheist Nonsense Breeds Killers

Nazaroo

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A famous saying: Garbage in, garbage out.

Some people's narrative seems to prove that a large part of humanity
simply lacks not only basic critical acumen skills,
but more importantly, they also lack an ability to create a world-view that
rises above the shallow garbage-world that the media perpetuates,
for both profit and ideological reasons.

When a vulnerable child without the ability to be an independent thinker in a good way,
is flooded with selfish atheistic values, and is surrounded by a mixed message from
their surrounding environment, including parents, peers, and society at large,
as well as an artificial 'world' created by the media hucksters,
that child has the potential to explode like a fire-cracker in violence,
as it seeks and craves for an ever-increasing "need" for attention.

The five killers in the following video appear to have something in common:
an inability to forge a sane and reasonable world-view which would for most of us
provide a reliable moral compass.

All of them criticise and reject religions, and pour out anger upon women, peers,
the world, and all of them somehow 'reason out' a belief that targeted groups
or the world in general have failed to provide for their narcisistic addiction.

At the same time, they don't perceive that their cravings for attention, "needs",
or personal 'failure' in or dissatisfaction with the world is not a normal condition,
but one that requires both intervention, and also self-reevaluation,
as well as reconstruction of their world-view.

The rest of humanity needs to take positive curative action towards these potential breakdowns,
not because they deserve special attention, but from a self-defence, preventative
and cost-analysis viewpoint.

Kids who need help or are falling into the wrong path need early notice, for everyone's sake.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5qfuKKb-K8
 

The Horn

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This is absolutely ludicrous ! It's based on false premises . Atheists tend to be the LEAST violent and fanatical people . The notion that you can only be moral if you believe in a God is ludicrous .
Stalin and Mao Zedong were not murderous , ruthless tyrants because they were atheists but because they were ruthless , power-hungry psychopaths who just happened to be atheists, and there have been plenty of these in organized religion .
You don't need to believe in a God to be a good person at all, and believing in one is no guarantee whatsoever of being a good person .
I'm an agnostic , not a dogmatic atheist . I don't fall;ow any particular religion but come from a nominally Jewish family which was never really observant .
Nobody had to tell me it's wrong to use violence against people . This has always been self-evident .
Both Christians and Muslims have slaughtered countless people over the centuries in the name of a deity .
 

PureX

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The more interesting question to me is why people like Naz have to believe in this nonsense. Why do they need to justify their belief in God so badly that they must demonize anyone who doesn't support it?
 

badp

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Something for all you haters to consider: when someone links atheism to murder, they're probably not saying "atheism will turn you into a serial killer." What they are saying is that atheism can form no moral argument against murder.
 

PureX

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Something for all you haters to consider: when someone links atheism to murder, they're probably not saying "atheism will turn you into a serial killer." What they are saying is that atheism can form no moral argument against murder.
Sure they can. You just can't accept that your own moral arguments are based on the same ideas and desires as any atheist's is: to exist is better than not to exist, and we all have a better chance at continuing to exist if we agree to do it together.
 

Quetzal

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Something for all you haters to consider: when someone links atheism to murder, they're probably not saying "atheism will turn you into a serial killer." What they are saying is that atheism can form no moral argument against murder.
God is not required to have a moral understanding of why living is better than dying.
 

badp

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Sure they can. You just can't accept that your own moral arguments are based on the same ideas and desires as any atheist's is: to exist is better than not to exist, and we all have a better chance at continuing to exist if we agree to do it together.

You're entitled to your opinion. Lots of people would rather not exist.
 

Nazaroo

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God is not required to have a moral understanding of why living is better than dying.

You must be retarded.

"living is better than dying" forms no moral argument against killing a competitor.
And it creates no set of ethical guidelines for behaviour.

In fact it reinforces any existing competition.

All wild animals believe that "living is better than dying".
Ask lions and hyenas if that utterly dominating survival instinct has ended the war between them,
or created any need to cooperate to acquire food more effectively or abundantly.

According to interpretations of fossil evidence,
lions and hyenas have had 50,000 years
to do something with "living is better than dying".
They are clearly utterly committed to it in a life-and-death struggle.
But they've remained fiercely tribal and species-centric.
Are they stupid? No. They're the most efficient predators on earth.

How dumb can atheism get?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e5PoddSBc8




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPXrJwQ5lqQ

 

PureX

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You're entitled to your opinion. Lots of people would rather not exist.
They may tell themselves that in their narcissistic torpor, but the fact that they're still around indicates otherwise.
 

PureX

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Eh, not all of them. Many commit suicide.
"Many"?

I hardly think so.

What is the ratio of people who do not kill themselves to people who do? I'm not going to bother looking it up, but I am CERTAIN that it's massively skewed in favor of those who do not.
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
looks like "lots" to me

even "many" :idunno:
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brewmama

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Something for all you haters to consider: when someone links atheism to murder, they're probably not saying "atheism will turn you into a serial killer." What they are saying is that atheism can form no moral argument against murder.

Excellent point. Any moral abhorrence atheists might have on killing is merely piggybacked onto religious principles that are ingrained in culture.
 

PureX

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Is that supposed to prove something? Self-preservation would lead to murder more often than not.
Sometimes it does, and sometimes it does not. Most times it does not. We are social animals, and so we have a strong sense that the preservation of our 'tribe' is directly related to the preservation of ourselves. And this has been so since before the invention of 'religion'. It is not a religious principal. It is a universal human inclination that most regions have adopted as a part of their ideology.
 
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