The so-called "fossil record"

[Right Divider]

One thing that evolutionists love to use as "evidence" of "goo to you" evolution is the so-called "fossil record". They claim that this is a record of change from simple to complex throughout eons of time. But, in reality, it is just lots of dead plants and animals (caused by a catastrophic world-wide flood).

They claim that "we see" animals changing from simple to complex through millions and billions of years... but there is NO evidence whatsoever that ANY of these dead animals had any offspring that lived. NONE. They are just bones in the ground.

 

[Idolater]

Firefly fossil reveals a previously undiscovered species that flickered during the time of dinosaurs | CNN

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Next step is to crack open that amber sucker and test it for carbon-14

Odds anybody will do that?

Approaching zero.

 

[kenny000]

The evolutionary theories based on fossils are one of the largest pieces of knowledge about life evolving, and while there may be several possible interpretations of it, it’s fun to find out how science and religion are compatible.

 

[JudgeRightly]

The evolutionary theories based on fossils are one of the largest pieces of knowledge about life evolving, and while there may be several possible interpretations of it, it’s fun to find out how science and religion are compatible.

People who claim that the "fossil record" is evidence of evolution are missing the forest for the trees, because in actuality, the "fossil record" is evidence for a global flood and a young earth.

 

[Sherman]

Most of the dinosaur fossils are found in 'graveyards' where it is apparent the bones were washed together by a cataclysmic event involving water.

 

[Derf]

The evolutionary theories based on fossils are one of the largest pieces of knowledge about life evolving, and while there may be several possible interpretations of it, it’s fun to find out how science and religion are compatible.

A theory cannot be a piece of knowledge.

 

[SwordOfTruth]

People who claim that the "fossil record" is evidence of evolution are missing the forest for the trees, because in actuality, the "fossil record" is evidence for a global flood and a young earth.

This is nonsense. The fossils demostrate how each type of animal existed whilst it was alive. The fossils show how the creature was skeletally designed, whether it had legs, arms, wings and so on. Plus they offer DNA samples which can be compared between evolutionary forms which show common ancestry. The fossil record serves as irrefutable evidence of evolution through its documentation of transitional forms, its integration with genetic data and its predictive capabilities.

 

[JudgeRightly]

This is nonsense. The fossils demostrate how each type of animal existed whilst it was alive. The fossils show how the creature was skeletally designed, whether it had legs, arms, wings and so on. Plus they offer DNA samples which can be compared between evolutionary forms which show common ancestry. The fossil record serves as irrefutable evidence of evolution through its documentation of transitional forms, its integration with genetic data and its predictive capabilities.

Like I said. You're missing the forest for the trees,

The ENTIRE "COLUMN" is evidence of a worldwide flood,

Because ALL OF IT was laid down by water.

 

[SwordOfTruth]

Like I said. You're missing the forest for the trees,

The ENTIRE "COLUMN" is evidence of a worldwide flood,

No it doesn't. Fossils are found in distinct layers of sedimentary rock, with older layers containing simpler, more primitive organisms and newer layers showing more complex forms. Such "stratification" is indicative of gradual change and evolution over millions of years.

Radiometric dating shows the age of rocks and fossils and shows that life on Earth has evolved over millions of years. The geological time scale shows the history of life including the advent of major events such as mass extinctions and also the beginning of new species.

Fossil "succession" deals with the prevalence of specific kinds of fossils found at specific geological layers and such fossils are found in those same layers all over the world which supports evolution. Were they to indicate a great global flood then there would have to have been repeated worldwide floods to create each geological layer with the same type of fossils in.

The fossil stratification also highlights extinction level events but crucially that after them, life once again began and started evolving again. The record shows numerous extinction events not one. For example the Permian-Triassic extinction and the Cretaceous-Paleogene extinction. In every case life continues to evolve afterward.

Fossilisation typically occurs under certain conditions, such as rapid burial in sediment, low oxygen environments, mineralisation and so on. A global flood would need to have created uniform conditions across the entire planet and that just doesn't gel with the reality of the localised and varied conditions observed in fossilisation.

Localised flooding can certainly lead to the burial of organisms and fossilisation, however the fossil record reflects a complex history of life involving various local and regional events rather than a single, worldwide flood.

 

[Right Divider]

No it doesn't. Fossils are found in distinct layers of sedimentary rock, with older layers containing simpler, more primitive organisms and newer layers showing more complex forms. Such "stratification" is indicative of gradual change and evolution over millions of years.

False!

Radiometric dating shows the age of rocks and fossils and shows that life on Earth has evolved over millions of years. The geological time scale shows the history of life including the advent of major events such as mass extinctions and also the beginning of new species.

Radiometric dating is a con game. You have no idea when and where the elements were created. You have no idea of their history (i.e., constant change over "millions/billions" of years).

Fossil "succession" deals with the prevalence of specific kinds of fossils found at specific geological layers and such fossils are found in those same layers all over the world which supports evolution.

Fossil "succession" is purely imagination.

Were they to indicate a great global flood then there would have to have been repeated worldwide floods to create each geological layer with the same type of fossils in.

Again, a vivid imagination is all that you have.

There is NO reason to believe that ONE worldwide flood requires MORE worldwide floods.

The fossil stratification also highlights extinction level events but crucially that after them, life once again began and started evolving again.

There was a SINGLE "extinction level event". It goes by the name of NOAH'S FLOOD.

The record shows numerous extinction events not one.

Only in your vivid imagination.

For example the Permian-Triassic extinction and the Cretaceous-Paleogene extinction. In every case life continues to evolve afterward.

Life has always branched out from the originally created kinds. It's not hard to see unless you blind yourself.

Fossilisation typically occurs under certain conditions, such as rapid burial in sediment, low oxygen environments, mineralisation and so on. A global flood would need to have created uniform conditions across the entire planet and that just doesn't gel with the reality of the localised and varied conditions observed in fossilisation.

The worldwide flood provides the exact conditions needed to create BILLIONS of fossils.

Localised flooding can certainly lead to the burial of organisms and fossilisation, however the fossil record reflects a complex history of life involving various local and regional events rather than a single, worldwide flood.

You are brainwashed.

 

[SwordOfTruth]

False!

That's not an argument. Saying it's false doesn't make it so. It just makes you look inadequate.

Radiometric dating is a con game. You have no idea when and where the elements were created. You have no idea of their history (i.e., constant change over "millions/billions" of years).

Nonsense. Each isotope has a known half-life, which allows scientists to calculate the age of a sample based on the ratio of parent isotopes to daughter isotopes. Learn some basic science before you engage in such discussions.

Fossil "succession" is purely imagination.

Again this is not an argument just the childish naysaying of anything you don't like.

Certain fossils, known as index fossils, are particularly useful for establishing the relative ages of rock layers. These fossils are typically widespread, easily recognizable, and existed for a relatively short geological time. Examples include:

• Trilobites: These marine arthropods were abundant and diverse during the Paleozoic Era, particularly in the Cambrian and Ordovician periods.
• Ammonites: These mollusks are found in many Mesozoic strata and are used extensively for dating and correlating Jurassic and Cretaceous rocks.

Basic geology.

Again, a vivid imagination is all that you have.

There is NO reason to believe that ONE worldwide flood requires MORE worldwide floods.

Dear oh dear. If there are fossils all lying within one geological layer followed by very few afterward then that would indicate an extinction level event such as the Great Flood or the Permian-Triassic extinction or the Cretaceous-Paleogene extinction. If there are subsequently found loads more fossils in more recent geological layers then clearly life has continued evolving beyong the extinction level. If the fossils in another layer then all disappear shortly afterward then that most certainly indicates another extinction event. This is what scientists observe. There are numerous geological layers, all over the world showing numerous extinction level events. A flood could certainly be one of them, but one worldwide flood doesn't and can't explain the prior or subsequent extinction events. Those are the facts.

You can have your own opinions but you can't have your own facts.

There was a SINGLE "extinction level event". It goes by the name of NOAH'S FLOOD.

Patently untrue. There are in fact at least 5 large extinction level events that have occurred which are:

1. Ordovician-Silurian Extinction (about 443 million years ago)
   • Causes: Likely caused by a combination of climate change, glaciation, and a drop in sea levels.
   • Impact: Approximately 85% of marine species went extinct, including many trilobites and brachiopods.
2. Late Devonian Extinction (about 359 million years ago)
   • Causes: Potential causes include changes in sea level, climate change, and possibly asteroid impacts.
   • Impact: Around 75% of species, particularly marine life, were lost over a prolonged period.
3. Permian-Triassic Extinction (about 252 million years ago)
   • Causes: This event is thought to have been caused by massive volcanic eruptions (Siberian Traps), climate change, and ocean anoxia.
   • Impact: The most severe extinction event, with about 96% of marine species and 70% of terrestrial vertebrate species going extinct.
4. Triassic-Jurassic Extinction (about 201 million years ago)
   • Causes: Likely caused by volcanic activity, climate change, and possibly asteroid impacts.
   • Impact: Approximately 80% of species went extinct, paving the way for the dominance of dinosaurs in the Jurassic period.
5. Cretaceous-Paleogene Extinction (about 66 million years ago)
   • Causes: Widely attributed to a combination of a massive asteroid impact (Chicxulub crater) and volcanic activity (Deccan Traps).
   • Impact: About 75% of species, including the non-avian dinosaurs, went extinct.

Again you can have your own opinions but you can't have your own facts.

Only in your vivid imagination.

Nope. It's scientific fact, nothing to do with my personal opinion.

Life has always branched out from the originally created kinds. It's not hard to see unless you blind yourself.

Yep and that's evolution

The worldwide flood provides the exact conditions needed to create BILLIONS of fossils.

Yep it certainly does and it creates those billions of fossils in the same geological layer, it has to if it's a worldwide flood. If it were the only extinction event of its kind in history then we would not find other examples of billions of fossils in prior or subsequent geological layers. Unfortunately for you, that's exactly what scientists/geologists observe.

You are brainwashed.

Nope. I'm going from the facts and science. You're going from religious dogma and blinkered adherence to words in documents not to actual evidence.

Brainwash
"to make someone believe something by repeatedly telling them that it is true and preventing other information from reaching them"

Your beloved scriptures (human documents going back only a few hundred years) are no match for real science which can reveal what occured millions of years ago. You allow yourself to be brainwshed when you fail to change your stance when presented with new evidence.

 

[Right Divider]

That's not an argument. Saying it's false doesn't make it so. It just makes you look inadequate.

It's just the truth. I know that the truth is always a big problem for you.

Nonsense. Each isotope has a known half-life, which allows scientists to calculate the age of a sample based on the ratio of parent isotopes to daughter isotopes. Learn some basic science before you engage in such discussions.

LOL...

Here's your problems:

1. As I stated already... you do NOT know the ORIGIN of these materials. Therefore, you do NOT know what the original ratios of those elements were.
2. You do NOT know the HISTORY of those elements. There are MANY ways that the ratios can change that are NOT based on the half-lives of them.
3. You do NOT know if the mother and daughter elements have been affected by outside influences during your supposed "millions/billions" of years.

Again this is not an argument just the childish naysaying of anything you don't like.

Certain fossils, known as index fossils, are particularly useful for establishing the relative ages of rock layers. These fossils are typically widespread, easily recognizable, and existed for a relatively short geological time. Examples include:

• Trilobites: These marine arthropods were abundant and diverse during the Paleozoic Era, particularly in the Cambrian and Ordovician periods.
• Ammonites: These mollusks are found in many Mesozoic strata and are used extensively for dating and correlating Jurassic and Cretaceous rocks.

Basic geology.

All based on chosen assumptions and circular reasoning.

The fossils date the rocks and the rocks date the fossils. You're not fooling anyone except those that are gullible.

You need to believe the truth instead of your cherished fairy tales.