ECT The Jesus of Mt 4 was totally confused acc. to D'ism and MAD people

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In Mt 4, Jesus reaches tons of Gentiles and Galileans, and at least 'all' of one (Gentile) country. This is utter confusion. Doesn't he know about dispensations and about Acts 7? Good grief, what a mistake. Is 9 must be 'spiritual' not physical Gentiles; solved! Isaiah? It can't be Isaiah saying that 700 years earlier, that would be mad. I mean not MAD. It was a 'mystery' so chop Isaiah, too.

Stick to single-verse soundbytes, all ye MAD; by which wherein ye shall be know-it-alls.
 
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In Mt 4, Jesus reaches tons of Gentiles and Galileans, and at least 'all' of one (Gentile) country. This is utter confusion. Doesn't he know about dispensations and about Acts 7? Good grief, what a mistake. Is 9 must be 'spiritual' not physical Gentiles; solved! Isaiah? It can't be Isaiah saying that 700 years earlier, that would be mad. I mean not MAD. It was a 'mystery' so chop Isaiah, too.

Stick to single-verse soundbytes, all ye MAD; by which wherein ye shall be know-it-alls.
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Hi and the bible says that God is not the AUTHOR of CONFUSION , so where did you go wrong , as Jesus was a DISPENSATIONALIST !!

You are the one that is CONFUSED !!

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DAN P said:
Hi and the bible says that God is not the AUTHOR of CONFUSION , so where did you go wrong , as Jesus was a DISPENSATIONALIST !!

You are the one that is CONFUSED !!

dan p
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God is not the author of confusion, and that is why God is not D'ist. D'ism is 2P2P and is a thorough-going mistaken system.
 
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lol--is that like Escher artwork?
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Lol, yes.

It's also 19th century heresy, in the same league and era as Jehova's Witnesses and Mormons. There was something about 1800's America that spawned bizarre, unorthodox beliefs.

The difference is that Dispensationalism caught on more than the other two, so it isn't popularly seen as a 'cult'- even though it really is :rolleyes:
 
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In Mt 4, Jesus reaches tons of Gentiles and Galileans, and at least 'all' of one (Gentile) country. This is utter confusion. Doesn't he know about dispensations and about Acts 7? Good grief, what a mistake. Is 9 must be 'spiritual' not physical Gentiles; solved! Isaiah? It can't be Isaiah saying that 700 years earlier, that would be mad. I mean not MAD. It was a 'mystery' so chop Isaiah, too.

Stick to single-verse soundbytes, all ye MAD; by which wherein ye shall be know-it-alls.
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:rotfl: You're just jealous because we understand God's word better, and you can't grasp the truth.
 
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In Mt 4, Jesus reaches tons of Gentiles and Galileans, and at least 'all' of one (Gentile) country. This is utter confusion. Doesn't he know about dispensations and about Acts 7? Good grief, what a mistake. Is 9 must be 'spiritual' not physical Gentiles; solved! Isaiah? It can't be Isaiah saying that 700 years earlier, that would be mad. I mean not MAD. It was a 'mystery' so chop Isaiah, too.

Stick to single-verse soundbytes, all ye MAD; by which wherein ye shall be know-it-alls.
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Riiiiiiight. That's why he commanded the 12 to go not in the way of the Gentiles...(Matthew 10:5-6 KJV), because they were to reach tons of Gentiles :dizzy:.

And dear boy, get a grip on reality:

Matthew 15:22-24 KJV, John 1:31 KJV, John 4:22 KJV

And do tell how they could have been preaching the why of the cross as the good news when it was a mystery at that time (Romans 16:25-26 KJV, 1 Corinthians 2:6-8 KJV).
 
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Forgive him, heir; he saw the word Gentiles in Matt. 4, and next thing he knew - presto; he concluded an airtight case :rotfl:
 
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In Mt 4, Jesus reaches tons of Gentiles and Galileans, and at least 'all' of one (Gentile) country. This is utter confusion. Doesn't he know about dispensations and about Acts 7? Good grief, what a mistake. Is 9 must be 'spiritual' not physical Gentiles; solved! Isaiah? It can't be Isaiah saying that 700 years earlier, that would be mad. I mean not MAD. It was a 'mystery' so chop Isaiah, too.

Stick to single-verse soundbytes, all ye MAD; by which wherein ye shall be know-it-alls.
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:chuckle:
 
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heir said:
Riiiiiiight. That's why he commanded the 12 to go not in the way of the Gentiles...(Matthew 10:5-6 KJV), because they were to reach tons of Gentiles :dizzy:.

And dear boy, get a grip on reality:

Matthew 15:22-24 KJV, John 1:31 KJV, John 4:22 KJV

And do tell how they could have been preaching the why of the cross as the good news when it was a mystery at that time (Romans 16:25-26 KJV, 1 Corinthians 2:6-8 KJV).
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They had Ps 22, Is 53, Dan 9. It was not a mystery to Christ. It was a mystery to Judaism. He was declared to be the Lamb of God by John the B. Do you know what a lamb was for in Judaism? Forget it, they didn't need the extra: ...who takes away the sins of the world. As far as that goes, forget 'the world.'

Because of Israel's background in these concepts, he intended to raise missionaries from among Israel to recover or repair the damage done by Judaism's missionaries (Mt 23). He was not talking about 2 programs when he appealed to Israel first, but to powerful and specific background that would help communicate the Gospel.
 
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SaulToPaul said:
If there are at least three peoples with at least three different purposes and inheritances, why would you mix them all into one? Is that not creating confusion?

Would you mix a Texas, NC, and California road map and try to use it to get where you need to be?
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There aren't even two. There are, however, people with delusions about several. Gal 3:17 is perfectly clear on this. Judaism voided and replaced the promise with the Law. That is the RT problem people should be talking about.

There is nothing confusing about the unity of the Christian church upon the Gospel in Eph 4, which is based on Eph 3, and that letter was the widest circulated document of the apostle. There is nothing about any other people or programs in it, nor in Rom 8, 11, 16, I Cor 15, Heb 9, 2 Pet 3 etc about the return of Christ.
 
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SaulToPaul said:
If there are at least three peoples with at least three different purposes and inheritances, why would you mix them all into one? Is that not creating confusion?

Would you mix a Texas, NC, and California road map and try to use it to get where you need to be?
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The single most helpful exegesis on this question is how Paul used Isaiah in Acts 13 to show that David's promises were transferred to Christ because His accomplishment was perfect and efficacious. Paul did not mean that there would be a future theocratic kingdom by quoting that. He meant the same as Christ already saying that the reign of God was in action already, per Ps 2--his people would volunteer freely in the day of His power.
 
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SaulToPaul said:
If there are at least three peoples with at least three different purposes and inheritances, why would you mix them all into one? Is that not creating confusion?

Would you mix a Texas, NC, and California road map and try to use it to get where you need to be?
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Yo, PJ, that right there - THREE inheritances - is a basic 28er view :chuckle:
 
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heir said:
Riiiiiiight. That's why he commanded the 12 to go not in the way of the Gentiles...(Matthew 10:5-6 KJV), because they were to reach tons of Gentiles :dizzy:.

And dear boy, get a grip on reality:

Matthew 15:22-24 KJV, John 1:31 KJV, John 4:22 KJV

And do tell how they could have been preaching the why of the cross as the good news when it was a mystery at that time (Romans 16:25-26 KJV, 1 Corinthians 2:6-8 KJV).
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re Mt 15.
Do you know how to miss a point or what? Don't you see that the incident set up faith alone? What religion are you, after all?

These are totally elementary objections, but knock yourself out asking.
 
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heir said:
Riiiiiiight. That's why he commanded the 12 to go not in the way of the Gentiles...(Matthew 10:5-6 KJV), because they were to reach tons of Gentiles :dizzy:.

And dear boy, get a grip on reality:

Matthew 15:22-24 KJV, John 1:31 KJV, John 4:22 KJV

And do tell how they could have been preaching the why of the cross as the good news when it was a mystery at that time (Romans 16:25-26 KJV, 1 Corinthians 2:6-8 KJV).
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re Jn 4,
Can't you even read the verses before or after? Yes, one people had to be picked out as the cradle. It could have been the Calethumpians. Or the Naszca. Only one had the specifics of revealed truth. It was, however, the Jews, but the next-door verses tell you, get ready, none of them matter!
 
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In Mt 4, Jesus reaches tons of Gentiles and Galileans, and at least 'all' of one (Gentile) country. This is utter confusion. Doesn't he know about dispensations and about Acts 7? Good grief, what a mistake. Is 9 must be 'spiritual' not physical Gentiles; solved! Isaiah? It can't be Isaiah saying that 700 years earlier, that would be mad. I mean not MAD. It was a 'mystery' so chop Isaiah, too.

Stick to single-verse soundbytes, all ye MAD; by which wherein ye shall be know-it-alls.
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In Matthew through John, Christ Only came for the lost sheep of the House of Israel. Not to the Gentiles.
 
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