The hostile takeover of the Republican party will continue

Yorzhik

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Ever wonder why your political beliefs keep on being pushed under the rug by your own party?

From the article: "Either Republican voters will succeed in fundamentally changing the Republican Party so that it aligns with and represents their interests, or they will demolish that party and bury its remains deep in the desert."

Neither will happen. The party will limp along with its socialist elites running or sabotaging the party. The idea that more than half Republican voters have the will to fix or destroy the party is a fantasy.
 

Gary K

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From the article: "Either Republican voters will succeed in fundamentally changing the Republican Party so that it aligns with and represents their interests, or they will demolish that party and bury its remains deep in the desert."

Neither will happen. The party will limp along with its socialist elites running or sabotaging the party. The idea that more than half Republican voters have the will to fix or destroy the party is a fantasy.
I don't disagree with you at all. I posted that link because so many Republicans still believed the party is not corrupt. The evidence is overwhelming that it is, and they close their eyes to it just like so many people close their eyes to the deadliness of the vaccines.
 

ok doser

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I don't disagree with you at all. I posted that link because so many Republicans still believed the party is not corrupt. The evidence is overwhelming that it is, and they close their eyes to it just like so many people close their eyes to the deadliness of the vaccines.
The Republican party is corrupt. That was one of Trump's main appeals when he first ran. That was one of the reasons I grew to appreciate him ("support" him, in the eyes of some here), as more and more the mainstream Republican opposition to him became visible.

@Yorzhik asked what might be done about the situation that exists currently. The most immediate concerns center around energy, inflation, border security and crime. But overarching all of this is the need to impose term limits for ALL government employees, elected or not. Also the need to remove the lobbying money from the legislative process.

iow, drain the swamp
 

marke

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And Trump proceeded to do absolutely nothing about the corruption in the Republican Party, so...congratulations?


Drain what swamp? Trump is gone and Mitch McConnell is still there! So again...congratulations on that?
As long as there are enemies of God in politics there will be corruption wherever those barbarians are influential.
 

Idolater

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The Republican party is corrupt.
Do you only mean that corruption exists in the party? When I hear you say this I think you mean corrupt like Latin American and African and Middle Eastern regimes who are literally illegitimate. They're basically bought and paid for, every last one of them, which is why none of them are safe and they're all [President Trump's word]-holes. Because of corruption, at the end of the day, every last one of them.

We've tangled over this before, when you implied that the Constitution prescribes a constitution where corruption can proliferate, compared to alternatives, with our maximally separated powers; I could only think then that you must mean that corruption exists, but not that therefore our government is characteristically corrupt, which is clearly untrue of not only the American but of all the Western democracies also. We are not characteristically corrupt.

Basically, justice is done. In corrupt countries, justice is not a value, it certainly doesn't exist as a value in the corrupt organizations and offices, but I wonder if it even exists in the people. I wonder if those people are just fundamentally corrupt. They all think primarily about what they can extract when or if they ever get any amount of power. Those characters are tropes in movies and TV. Standard issue bad guy.

I don't see em in the Republican party. Exceptions prove the rule.
 
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Skeeter

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It does not appear that Dr. Oz knows the Lord and has good morals and principles with good judgment to prevent him from leading people away from God's light into darkness.
Your self-serving attachment of God's will to your political views and Satan's influence to the opposite is nauseating and childish. You seem capable of better discernment. Why don't you exercise your capacity?
 

Idolater

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Your self-serving attachment of God's will to your political views and Satan's influence to the opposite is nauseating and childish. You seem capable of better discernment. Why don't you exercise your capacity?
I am also exactly that. America's founding moral philosophy is God's moral philosophy: Universal inborn (AB's "inbuilt") indivisible human rights; i.e. "ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL"
 

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He'd confirm the justices that President Trump did in fact nominate (not rhetorically or theoretically, he really did nominate them): Quote-unquote judicial "Originalists".
He'd confirm the same type of Federalist Society-approved judges that voted against Trump every step of the way.
 

Idolater

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So long as we get the right jurists.
= quote-unquote "Originalists", a shorthand form denoting those who take America's founding moral philosophy as the controlling morality in our country, and thus interpret (the distinctive lawyerly work) the Constitution according to it. Preexisting, permanent, universal and indivisible moral rights, endowed to us . . . one way or another. Although our founding moral document says by our Creator.
 

marke

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Your self-serving attachment of God's will to your political views and Satan's influence to the opposite is nauseating and childish. You seem capable of better discernment. Why don't you exercise your capacity?
God opposes sexual immorality, murder by abortion, perversion of judgment and justice, drunkenness, theft, lying, and more. The reason I oppose what God opposes is not because of politics or personal interests.
 

Idolater

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God opposes sexual immorality, murder by abortion, perversion of judgment and justice, drunkenness, theft, lying, and more. The reason I oppose what God opposes is not because of politics or personal interests.
We had a problem with slavery. That one took a war to fix. If you remember, President Lincoln justified the war with words from our founding moral treatise: ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL he said.
 

marke

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We had a problem with slavery. That one took a war to fix. If you remember, President Lincoln justified the war with words from our founding moral treatise: ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL he said.
Thousands of Christians opposed slavery from the beginning and many Christians hazarded their lives and property by aiding slaves to escape before the war and by fighting on the side of the North to free slaves during the war.
 
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