Sources of the Kind of Dialectic Used Here By Many Dispensationalists
What is the dialectic? In Greek philosophy before the time of Christ, the διαλεκτική, or dialectic, is a way of making arguments, using what is called a thesis and an anti-thesis in opposition to the thesis. The dialectic only operates within dialogue between at least two people. The didactic method of teaching, by which what is claimed to be facts are taught, is not the dialectic because it is not a dialogue. The dialectic only occurs within the dialogue of arguments and counter-arguments, advocating propositions - theses - and counter-propositions - which are αντιθεσεις, anti-theses.
αντιθεσεις, anti-thesis, is used in I Timothy 6: 20 by the Greek text.
The key part in Greek says "και αντιθεσεις της ψευδωνυμου γνωσεως,or "and
anti-thesis of falsely called knowledge." Paul says in I Timothy 6: 22-21 to avoid the anti-thesis of falsely called knowledge. In other words, he says to avoid the use of the dialectic within dialogue. There are other Greek words used in the New Testament which mean opposition, such as anthistémi, antidiatithémi, antipolítef̱si̱, or enantío̱si̱. αντιθεσεις, anti-thesis is a term used in Greek philosophy in relation to the dialectic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thesis...sis,_synthesis
"Hegel used the "thesis-antithesis-synthesis" idea only once, and he attributed the terminology to Immanuel Kant. The terminology was largely developed by Johann Gottlieb Fichte, also an advocate of the philosophy identified as German idealism. "
"Karl Marx (1818-1883) and Friedrich Engels (1820-1895) adopted and extended the triad, especially in Marx's The Poverty of Philosophy (1847). Here, in Chapter 2, Marx is obsessed by the word "thesis". It can be said to form an important part of the basis for the Marxist theory..."
So, Marxism is not just an ideology opposed to capitalism and the Christian and family based culture developed in Christian nations of the West. Marxism is also an ideology based upon the dialectic as a means of changing the way people think and communicate - or dialogue.
Dean Gotcher has studied the recent history of the dialectic used in the major institutions of Western society. He has focused on the Frankfurt School of Transformational Marxism, which has not advertised itself as Marxism.
Gotcher says "The key to dialectic thinking is the right to question, mock, and ridicule the traditional, didactic, patriarch authority paradigm. The facilitator’s agenda is to create and sustain such an environment. The very right to question the role of traditional authority has an effect on all participating in such surroundings."
In other words, those influenced by the Marxist Left believe they are right in questioning and mocking the older established culture by use of some form of the dialectic.
Dean Gotcher says: "God cannot speak into the pre-flood, Tower of Babel, Sodom and Gomorrah, dialectic mind, even though it might quote scripture." From: https://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/brai...ic-gotcher.htm
"The dialectic is man thinking through his feelings. This is the reason God flooded the world and will judge the world again. "And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man." (Luke 17:26) " Says Gotcher.
Then he says "The dialectic paradigm rejects the word of God as the final authority. It turns to fables and the opinions of men. You do not dialogue truth, you teach truth, you dialogue compromise. From: https://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/brai...ic-gotcher.htm.".......The prophecy of Luke 17: 26. Gotcher is saying, can be seen to began to be fulfilled now because of the widespread use of the dialectic. He is saying that the mindset behind the use of the dialectic is somehow like that of the mindset of pre-Flood times, as well as the mindset of people at the times of the Tower of Babel, Sodom and Gomorrah events.
Gotcher writes about the Group Dynamics movement within American Social Psychology, and the Encounter Group Movement which made use of concepts developed by the Group Dynamics social psychologists. This is where Gotcher got the term "facilitator" which is what the Encounter Group leader was called.
The Group Dynamics and Encounter Group movements went on way back in the fifties, sixties and seventies and overlapped with the Counterculture, also a rebellion against traditional Christian and family based Western culture.
Now, in the early 21st century we have a kind of dumbed down form of the dialectic within dialogue and a dumbed down form of the Marxist Left. Recently this dumbed down dialectic has been called "Fake News." The people critical of the Marxist Left have said that the mainstream, "liberal," mass media is "Fake News," and "Made Up News."
The dumbed down dialectic of "Fake News" makes use of byte speak, that is, in one sentence statements or just a few sentences. "Fake News" is repeated over and over in simplified form, such as, that the Alternative Media," now called the "Alt Media," and its political allies, are controlled by the Russians. With "Fake News" it does not matter whether there is any evidence for the "Fake News" or not. The belief behind "Fake News" is that if you repeat it enough, it will work to defeat the "Alt" Conservatives and bring down the Republic.
The point I want to make is that there are older dispensationalist preachers who do not spend much time in preaching the doctrines of this theology. They do preach some of the Gospel of Christ, even though their theology in key places does not agree with scripture. If you want to simplify this disagreement with scripture just look at Romans 10: 12 and Galatians 3: 28. These texts say there is no difference between those of the physical bloodline and those not of the bloodline - the Gentiles - when both are in faith. Dispensationalism then disagrees with Romans 10: 12 and Galatians 3: 28 when it postulates that Israel and the Church are two separated peoples of God. The doctrines behind this postulate are that the physical bloodline still exists and that what Paul calls the the middle wall of partition (Ephesians 2: 14) between Gentiles and Jews in faith is still fully in place. The younger contemporary dispensationalists may deny all this in their dialectic game.
For example, Rodney Howard-Browne, apparently a Pentecostal evangelical preacher, born in 1961, can be inspiring in his talk about the Body of Christ now being in the White House after not being there for so long. Rodney Howard-Browne is not as old as Steve Quayle, apparently still a dispenmsationalist, who was one of the short wave broadcasters of the nineties who were the forerunners of the "Alt Conservative Media" including Matt Drudge, and Alex Jones (the youngest of the short wave broadcasters of the nineties).
But here now so many dispensationalists appear to be under some influence from the mainstream, "liberal," Leftist mass media. To the extent they are under influence from CNN, MSNBC, Newsweek, the New York Times or the Washington Post, they are, in their use of repeated slogans in their simplified dialectic game, are Marxist Leftists. But they appear not to know what Marxism is.
What is the dialectic? In Greek philosophy before the time of Christ, the διαλεκτική, or dialectic, is a way of making arguments, using what is called a thesis and an anti-thesis in opposition to the thesis. The dialectic only operates within dialogue between at least two people. The didactic method of teaching, by which what is claimed to be facts are taught, is not the dialectic because it is not a dialogue. The dialectic only occurs within the dialogue of arguments and counter-arguments, advocating propositions - theses - and counter-propositions - which are αντιθεσεις, anti-theses.
αντιθεσεις, anti-thesis, is used in I Timothy 6: 20 by the Greek text.
The key part in Greek says "και αντιθεσεις της ψευδωνυμου γνωσεως,or "and
anti-thesis of falsely called knowledge." Paul says in I Timothy 6: 22-21 to avoid the anti-thesis of falsely called knowledge. In other words, he says to avoid the use of the dialectic within dialogue. There are other Greek words used in the New Testament which mean opposition, such as anthistémi, antidiatithémi, antipolítef̱si̱, or enantío̱si̱. αντιθεσεις, anti-thesis is a term used in Greek philosophy in relation to the dialectic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thesis...sis,_synthesis
"Hegel used the "thesis-antithesis-synthesis" idea only once, and he attributed the terminology to Immanuel Kant. The terminology was largely developed by Johann Gottlieb Fichte, also an advocate of the philosophy identified as German idealism. "
"Karl Marx (1818-1883) and Friedrich Engels (1820-1895) adopted and extended the triad, especially in Marx's The Poverty of Philosophy (1847). Here, in Chapter 2, Marx is obsessed by the word "thesis". It can be said to form an important part of the basis for the Marxist theory..."
So, Marxism is not just an ideology opposed to capitalism and the Christian and family based culture developed in Christian nations of the West. Marxism is also an ideology based upon the dialectic as a means of changing the way people think and communicate - or dialogue.
Dean Gotcher has studied the recent history of the dialectic used in the major institutions of Western society. He has focused on the Frankfurt School of Transformational Marxism, which has not advertised itself as Marxism.
Gotcher says "The key to dialectic thinking is the right to question, mock, and ridicule the traditional, didactic, patriarch authority paradigm. The facilitator’s agenda is to create and sustain such an environment. The very right to question the role of traditional authority has an effect on all participating in such surroundings."
In other words, those influenced by the Marxist Left believe they are right in questioning and mocking the older established culture by use of some form of the dialectic.
Dean Gotcher says: "God cannot speak into the pre-flood, Tower of Babel, Sodom and Gomorrah, dialectic mind, even though it might quote scripture." From: https://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/brai...ic-gotcher.htm
"The dialectic is man thinking through his feelings. This is the reason God flooded the world and will judge the world again. "And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man." (Luke 17:26) " Says Gotcher.
Then he says "The dialectic paradigm rejects the word of God as the final authority. It turns to fables and the opinions of men. You do not dialogue truth, you teach truth, you dialogue compromise. From: https://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/brai...ic-gotcher.htm.".......The prophecy of Luke 17: 26. Gotcher is saying, can be seen to began to be fulfilled now because of the widespread use of the dialectic. He is saying that the mindset behind the use of the dialectic is somehow like that of the mindset of pre-Flood times, as well as the mindset of people at the times of the Tower of Babel, Sodom and Gomorrah events.
Gotcher writes about the Group Dynamics movement within American Social Psychology, and the Encounter Group Movement which made use of concepts developed by the Group Dynamics social psychologists. This is where Gotcher got the term "facilitator" which is what the Encounter Group leader was called.
The Group Dynamics and Encounter Group movements went on way back in the fifties, sixties and seventies and overlapped with the Counterculture, also a rebellion against traditional Christian and family based Western culture.
Now, in the early 21st century we have a kind of dumbed down form of the dialectic within dialogue and a dumbed down form of the Marxist Left. Recently this dumbed down dialectic has been called "Fake News." The people critical of the Marxist Left have said that the mainstream, "liberal," mass media is "Fake News," and "Made Up News."
The dumbed down dialectic of "Fake News" makes use of byte speak, that is, in one sentence statements or just a few sentences. "Fake News" is repeated over and over in simplified form, such as, that the Alternative Media," now called the "Alt Media," and its political allies, are controlled by the Russians. With "Fake News" it does not matter whether there is any evidence for the "Fake News" or not. The belief behind "Fake News" is that if you repeat it enough, it will work to defeat the "Alt" Conservatives and bring down the Republic.
The point I want to make is that there are older dispensationalist preachers who do not spend much time in preaching the doctrines of this theology. They do preach some of the Gospel of Christ, even though their theology in key places does not agree with scripture. If you want to simplify this disagreement with scripture just look at Romans 10: 12 and Galatians 3: 28. These texts say there is no difference between those of the physical bloodline and those not of the bloodline - the Gentiles - when both are in faith. Dispensationalism then disagrees with Romans 10: 12 and Galatians 3: 28 when it postulates that Israel and the Church are two separated peoples of God. The doctrines behind this postulate are that the physical bloodline still exists and that what Paul calls the the middle wall of partition (Ephesians 2: 14) between Gentiles and Jews in faith is still fully in place. The younger contemporary dispensationalists may deny all this in their dialectic game.
For example, Rodney Howard-Browne, apparently a Pentecostal evangelical preacher, born in 1961, can be inspiring in his talk about the Body of Christ now being in the White House after not being there for so long. Rodney Howard-Browne is not as old as Steve Quayle, apparently still a dispenmsationalist, who was one of the short wave broadcasters of the nineties who were the forerunners of the "Alt Conservative Media" including Matt Drudge, and Alex Jones (the youngest of the short wave broadcasters of the nineties).
But here now so many dispensationalists appear to be under some influence from the mainstream, "liberal," Leftist mass media. To the extent they are under influence from CNN, MSNBC, Newsweek, the New York Times or the Washington Post, they are, in their use of repeated slogans in their simplified dialectic game, are Marxist Leftists. But they appear not to know what Marxism is.
