The Alexandrian LXX (Septuagint), which is the most complete one we have, says "angels" (Greek aggelos) in Genesis 6.
Sons of God in the Old Testament (Tanakh)
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“There also we saw the Nephilim נְפִיל (the sons of Anak are part of the Nephilim); נְפִיל and we became like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight.” - Numbers 13:33
Here's the deal .......
That cannot be true for those that hold the view of the sons of Seth mating with the daughters of Cain, because the flood killed all of the line of Cain.
I believe that "sons of God" has two meanings. First the angels, second any unknown species standing like humans but not humans.
They are called "sons of God" because ancient humans don't know what they are and thus used that term to describe them. The same term they might have used to describe the angels who appear to look like humans but not actually humans.
I think that the verse could mean that other species such as Neanderthals came for human women back and forth to have offspring. This happened before and after the flood.
They are called "sons of God" because ancient humans don't know what they are and thus used that term to describe them. The same term they might have used to describe the angels who appear to look like humans but not actually humans.
I think that the verse could mean that other species such as Neanderthals came for human women back and forth to have offspring. This happened before and after the flood.
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Many attribute the designation "son of God" in the Old Testament, to mean that they were direct creations of God.
There are many "direct creations" of God, such as the angels, seraphim, cherubim, etc.
Adam is called the son of God in Luke 3:38.
That means their DNA was complementary.
This means they descended from Eve, the mother of all.
Even the Denisovans.
And many humans are sons of God by direct creation.
"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation" (2 Corinthians 5:17)
A person with God's Spirit is in Christ.
beameup
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You seem to be unable to focus on the topic.
The topic is "sons of God in the Old Testament".
Are you aware that the Old Testament was written in Hebrew?
However, these "sons of God" from Genesis 6
are referenced in the New Testament:
For if God spared not the angels that sinned,
but cast them down to Tartarus, and delivered
them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment
2 Peter 2:4
And the angels which kept not their first estate,
but left their own habitation, he hath reserved
in everlasting chains under darkness unto the
judgment of the great day. - Jude 6
Paul taught from the Greek version of the Hebrew Bible.
Many people claim that he could read and speak the Hebrew language.
Besides, Moses was a Christian.
"Do you not know that we shall judge angels?" (1 Corinthians 6:3)
To me, what matters is that it could possibly be an interbreeding event. As long as interbreeding exists before and after the flood, we can't tell for sure "what they are". No where says that "sons (plural) of God" must be direct creation from God. In contrary, "son of man" is often used to describe someone appear to be a human and being a human.
I don't think that genetic description is good enough to define them. I believe that a more precise description can only be from whether they have a human soul. If they have a soul, they are descendants of Eve and Adam, if not (say as a result of mating back and forth with both humans and other species such as the chimps) they may not be properly considered as the descendants of Eve and Adam.
By the book of Enoch, some of them could possibly be what we commonly refer to as the demons.
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What else would they be? Are you implying that there are celestial beings that reproduce "sons". Man has the capacity to reproduce children, of course. But only one man is called the son of God, that is the original... Adam in Luke 3:38. Adam is an original creation by God.
oikētērion οἰκητήριον = a glorified body
And the angels which kept not their first estate,
but left their own habitation [oikētērion]
he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness
unto the judgment of the great day. - Jude 6
For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed
upon with our house [oikētērion] which is from heaven
2 Corinthians 5:2
Looks like the rebellious angels gave up their supernatural bodies to become manlike,
and then mate with human women, producing half-breed nephilim
It can be similar to the term "son of man". It can be used to refer to a prophet. Or it can also be used to describe a usual human, that is, "in the shape/form of a human". "son of God" can be different from "sons of God" in terms of how they are used. son of God no doubt is seldom used in books to describe the outfit or form of someone. However it by no means says that "sons (a plural) of God" as a term hasn't been used to describe the outfit/form/shape of something similar to humans but actually not.
People don't have a soul, they are a soul. They're a breathing soul or else they are a dead soul.
Does the book of Enoch claim that angelic beings have DNA?
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I don't hold that view.
I don't.
beameup
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For if God spared not the angels that sinned - 2 Peter 2:4a
Obviously, you failed to read my above post #48 quote from the New Testament about Genesis 6 "sons of God".
Being a LAZY reader is no excuse. Better luck next time.
The angels of God never marry nor can they ever sin.
The prophets of God had sinned and led the generation astray before the flood.
Same as in the falling away at the end of every age since.
Mat 22:28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.
Mat 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
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