Whose lying now? :think:
in what way am i lying?
Whose lying now? :think:
I rather doubt that Rusha and A4T would see restraint to prevent somebody from beating their child as abuse.
Sounds like there may be bigger issues in your relationship. In any case, and at the risk of being grossly misunderstood, you do have the right to defend yourself if somebody is attacking you. In my mind, defending yourself is not abuse, it is defense.
in what way am i lying?
I'm deeply sorry for you confusion in this matter. Better not start any more families until you get it worked out. Let me help you a bit, if you need to stop your wife from beating her children it is okay to get between the mother and the child and even wrap your arms around her to prevent her from further hitting anybody. Its okay to pick her up and carry her out of the room to let her cool off. She may slap you. That does not mean that it is okay for you to slap her back.if it was a woman forcefully stopping a man?
i agree
if it was a man forcefully stopping a woman? :idunno:
You know i think no such thing. Thats how.
you're claimiing that i know what you think?
that's retarded
I'm deeply sorry for you confusion in this matter. Better not start any more families until you get it worked out. Let me help you a bit, if you need to stop your wife from beating her children it is okay to get between the mother and the child and even wrap your arms around her to prevent her from further hitting anybody. Its okay to pick her up and carry her out of the room to let her cool off. She may slap you. That does not mean that it is okay for you to slap her back.
I'm deeply sorry for you confusion in this matter.
if you need to stop your wife from beating her children it is okay to get between the mother and the child and even wrap your arms around her to prevent her from further hitting anybody. Its okay to pick her up and carry her out of the room to let her cool off.
Do you see what he is doing here?
Do you see what he is doing here? He is making it sound as though his wife was beating the children. She, of course, is not here to tell her side of this accusation. Nor is she here to confirm or deny the veracity of his claims that she was physically abusive.
There is no truth in this person.
Nothing you have posted has given my any confidence in your ability to distinguish abuse from reasonable restraint.i'm not sure why you think i'm confused :idunno:
Then I would call you coward for not doing the best you could defend one who is even smaller than you.what if she's bigger than me?
Nothing you have posted has given my any confidence in your ability to distinguish abuse from reasonable restraint.
Then I would call you coward for not doing the best you could defend one who is even smaller than you.
Seems to me that you are going to great lengths to misconstrued the definition provided. from the above link:well, you did kinda come in in the middle
today's post
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3854976&postcount=152
on this thread was a continuation of a discussion that had been ongoing in another thread:
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3854969#post3854969
there's links embedded but you can't see them very well
in that other thread rusha (the hell-bound God-denying pervert) posted a definition of physical abuse that included restraint (and mean looks and raised voices, i guess)
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3854939&postcount=112
Yes, even if physical force is involved. The key lies in the level of force used and the motive for doing so. If you are protecting yourself and/or others then you use the force you need to stop the battery. If you go beyond that and use more force than you need because you are angry and wish to inflict pain for the sake of retribution then you have crossed the line.even if it involved physical force?
Restraint can be a pattern of behavior but it can also be the correct course of action when somebody has lost control and needs to be stopped from hurting themselves or somebody else. I think that Rusha would agree with that.
Seems to me that you are going to great lengths to misconstrued the definition provided. from the above link:
Domestic violence, also known as domestic abuse, spousal abuse, battering, family violence, dating abuse, and intimate partner violence (IPV), is a pattern of behavior
Restraint can be a pattern of behavior but it can also be the correct course of action when somebody has lost control and needs to be stopped from hurting themselves or somebody else. I think that Rusha would agree with that.
Yes, even if physical force is involved. The key lies in the level of force used and the motive for doing so.
If you are protecting yourself and/or others then you use the force you need to stop the battery. If you go beyond that and use more force than you need because you are angry and wish to inflict pain for the sake of retribution then you have crossed the line.