Should Women Be Beaten?

intojoy

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Sounds like there may be bigger issues in your relationship. In any case, and at the risk of being grossly misunderstood, you do have the right to defend yourself if somebody is attacking you. In my mind, defending yourself is not abuse, it is defense.


Well, if you guys ever think about getting your wife to make love to you more often...don't ever tell her "you skipped a week" thems is fightin' words for a woman
 

CabinetMaker

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if it was a woman forcefully stopping a man?

i agree


if it was a man forcefully stopping a woman? :idunno:
I'm deeply sorry for you confusion in this matter. Better not start any more families until you get it worked out. Let me help you a bit, if you need to stop your wife from beating her children it is okay to get between the mother and the child and even wrap your arms around her to prevent her from further hitting anybody. Its okay to pick her up and carry her out of the room to let her cool off. She may slap you. That does not mean that it is okay for you to slap her back.
 

intojoy

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We could make money if this were reality tv

This stuff is priceless

For the record: res is not a wife beatin cheatin sob

That's obvious from his commentary

Do men get the urge to beat women?

Of course they do and that's why it happens. Men beat their women into submission because sadly it works.

The bible teaches we are to love our wives into submission. Sometimes we fail. Sometimes the wife can be extremely rebellious and that fits res' description of his x.

Women according to the bible are cursed with a nature that seeks to usurp their husband's authority. They can't help it anymore than men can't stop lusting. But they can respond to Christ in us if we learn to love them and we can learn to respond to Christ in them and stop lusting.

Sin is so pervasive...where's GT
 

bybee

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I'm deeply sorry for you confusion in this matter. Better not start any more families until you get it worked out. Let me help you a bit, if you need to stop your wife from beating her children it is okay to get between the mother and the child and even wrap your arms around her to prevent her from further hitting anybody. Its okay to pick her up and carry her out of the room to let her cool off. She may slap you. That does not mean that it is okay for you to slap her back.

Do you see what he is doing here? He is making it sound as though his wife was beating the children. She, of course, is not here to tell her side of this accusation. Nor is she here to confirm or deny the veracity of his claims that she was physically abusive.
There is no truth in this person.
 

Breathe

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Abusing any spouse is wrong, but abusing someone weaker and smaller than oneself - as women generally are - is particularly heinous.
 

resurrected

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I'm deeply sorry for you confusion in this matter.

i'm not sure why you think i'm confused :idunno:

if you need to stop your wife from beating her children it is okay to get between the mother and the child and even wrap your arms around her to prevent her from further hitting anybody. Its okay to pick her up and carry her out of the room to let her cool off.

what if she's bigger than me?

Do you see what he is doing here?

yes bybee

we're discussing scenarios

instead of assuming, next time ask and perhaps you won't be so easily fooled by your buddies who spit on Christ
 

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Do you see what he is doing here? He is making it sound as though his wife was beating the children. She, of course, is not here to tell her side of this accusation. Nor is she here to confirm or deny the veracity of his claims that she was physically abusive.
There is no truth in this person.

Exactly. Domestic and child abuse is a serious subject matter ... nothing to make light over.

The title of the OP was done to rile up the other members, women especially.

Personally speaking, I consider the source and know very well that no decent man would ever joke or make light of this issue.

Due to the fact that I don't believe anything that comes off of the tips of his fingers, it's not possible to make a determination. It's just as probable that there were no confrontations and this is just another "Res seeking attention" moment.
 

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seeing that you spit on Christ's free offer of salvation, i can't imagine why you're allowed to continue posting here


why don't you just go straight to hell rusha and save us the bother of having to put up with you?

you're heading there eventually
 

CabinetMaker

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i'm not sure why you think i'm confused :idunno:
Nothing you have posted has given my any confidence in your ability to distinguish abuse from reasonable restraint.


what if she's bigger than me?
Then I would call you coward for not doing the best you could defend one who is even smaller than you.
 

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Nothing you have posted has given my any confidence in your ability to distinguish abuse from reasonable restraint.

well, you did kinda come in in the middle

today's post

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3854976&postcount=152

on this thread was a continuation of a discussion that had been ongoing in another thread:

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3854969#post3854969

there's links embedded but you can't see them very well

in that other thread rusha (the hell-bound God-denying pervert) posted a definition of physical abuse that included restraint (and mean looks and raised voices, i guess)

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3854939&postcount=112




Then I would call you coward for not doing the best you could defend one who is even smaller than you.

even if it involved physical force?
 

CabinetMaker

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well, you did kinda come in in the middle

today's post

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3854976&postcount=152

on this thread was a continuation of a discussion that had been ongoing in another thread:

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3854969#post3854969

there's links embedded but you can't see them very well

in that other thread rusha (the hell-bound God-denying pervert) posted a definition of physical abuse that included restraint (and mean looks and raised voices, i guess)

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3854939&postcount=112
Seems to me that you are going to great lengths to misconstrued the definition provided. from the above link:
Domestic violence, also known as domestic abuse, spousal abuse, battering, family violence, dating abuse, and intimate partner violence (IPV), is a pattern of behavior


Restraint can be a pattern of behavior but it can also be the correct course of action when somebody has lost control and needs to be stopped from hurting themselves or somebody else. I think that Rusha would agree with that.




even if it involved physical force?
Yes, even if physical force is involved. The key lies in the level of force used and the motive for doing so. If you are protecting yourself and/or others then you use the force you need to stop the battery. If you go beyond that and use more force than you need because you are angry and wish to inflict pain for the sake of retribution then you have crossed the line.
 

Rusha

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Restraint can be a pattern of behavior but it can also be the correct course of action when somebody has lost control and needs to be stopped from hurting themselves or somebody else. I think that Rusha would agree with that.

You are correct. :thumb:
 

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Seems to me that you are going to great lengths to misconstrued the definition provided. from the above link:
Domestic violence, also known as domestic abuse, spousal abuse, battering, family violence, dating abuse, and intimate partner violence (IPV), is a pattern of behavior

what constitutes a "pattern of behavior"?

one instance?

two?

a couple times a year?

Restraint can be a pattern of behavior but it can also be the correct course of action when somebody has lost control and needs to be stopped from hurting themselves or somebody else. I think that Rusha would agree with that.

she didn't appear to in the other thread :idunno:



Yes, even if physical force is involved. The key lies in the level of force used and the motive for doing so.

nobody was interested in discussing motive in the other thread

just jumping to conclusions

If you are protecting yourself and/or others then you use the force you need to stop the battery. If you go beyond that and use more force than you need because you are angry and wish to inflict pain for the sake of retribution then you have crossed the line.

:thumb:

it's nice to discuss this with someone who isn't ruled by their emotions
 
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