San Antonio’s Cornerstone Church attempts to further distance itself from extreme right-wing rally

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John Hagee’s Cornerstone Church in San Antonio has issued an apology for hosting an extremist rally.The Reawaken America Tour appeared in San Antonio at the church, which was roundly criticized by many religious leaders after video showed the crowd chanting “Let’s Go Brandon” a euphemism for an insult against President Joe Biden. After an attempt to distance themselves from the event, another video surfaced of Pastor Matt Hagee, John Hagee’s son, welcoming the crowd and congratulating them for attending.

The church offered a later statement in which the younger Hagee apologized for his involvement, and asked for forgiveness. The statement said the group was not properly vetted, and stated that, “In the future, Cornerstone Church would ensure that organizations using their facility are an appropriate reflection of their mission and vision.”

The conference took place on Nov. 11-13, and speakers included former National Security Advisor Mike Flynn, Trump political consultant Roger Stone and My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell. All three are well-known conspiracy theorists.

They railed against COVID-19 vaccine mandates and election fraud, and Flynn was caught on video calling for “one religion” in the United States.

Critics, including religious leaders, have condemned organizers for holding the political event in a religious setting.

Oklahoma Pastor Jeremy Coleman shared his thoughts on TikTok:

“Look, if you're going to be a white nationalist cult rally, just say that if you're going to be a bigoted political rally, just say that, but don't call yourself a church. Churches are meant to be places of unconditional love for your neighbor. That means your Republican neighbor, your Democrat neighbor, your gay neighbor, your straight neighbor, your Black neighbor, your white neighbor, your American neighbor, your immigrant neighbor,” Coleman said.

“It's meant to be a place where everybody can come together in unity and love and worship Jesus. So you can miss me with that bull [redacted] because that's a white nationalist cult rally — who needs to start paying taxes.”
 

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I'll bet now they're worried about their tax-exempt status.

And Flynn the traitor said the quiet part out loud:

"If we are going to have one nation under God, which we must, we have to have one religion." One nation under God and one religion under God, right?"

That's a direct attack on the first amendment.

Not that MAGA will mind though, since their desired end result of deconstructing our constitutional republic is a theological autocracy.
 
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I don't think you understand, Jefferson. At all. It's the fact that evangelicals are chanting it in their churches.

You've crossed the Rubicon. You don't see it, you can't see it, you're too close to it. But your politics IS your religion now. And you want to force it on everyone else. That's not gonna happen.


As for my personal opinion about the chant, as I've said before:

I think the whole thing is kind of funny. President Biden is actually powerful enough to get millions of evangelicals to say the F word (NASCAR crowd, etc.), in front of their kids! 😂 Or have to explain to them what the letter F stands for in FJB, as you've used, or the LGB chant itself.

Who woulda thunk it? A word that was censored on this site to the point that even the asterisk replacement was a bannable offense, is now celebrated! Wow, the power Biden has over you, to get you to lose your aversion to that four-letter word! :)

Anyway. I chuckled at the clip of the guy driving by the MAGA crowd with "[redacted] Trump" blaring out his car speakers a year or two ago. I know there are "[redacted] Trump" flags still flying out there. The chant itself doesn't bother me, sorry marke - but it's interesting to watch how much it means to all of you to show your club credentials in this way. So carry on, and maybe the silver lining is maybe now evangelicals won't wash their kids' mouths out with soap when they use the F word.
 


Jefferson,

This thread is such a disgusting lie and based on such a disgusting lie that it really should be lock. One might as well make a thread saying that Elvis is a Klansman and visited Trump yesterday. That would be just as true as this thread, It is beyond absurd.

What this propagandist calls "extremists" was address in my thread which I shall quote now:

I saw a disgusting thread in here the other day, I know it had to be a total lie, I investigated, and as usual I was correct

Reawaken America Tour is a collection of doctors, politicians, Trump voters, in other words good Americans, to have a sort of fun, informative event with speaks and information. Its like a big rally, but more like a speakers event.

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Mike Flynn supported the families of those killed in Afghanistan at a massive telethon in Colorado as part of the Reawaken America Tour, where the money raised will be turned into scholarships and other funds for the families of those who lost their lives.

Mike Lindell is a speaker. Other speakers include: Mellissa Tate, Pastor Leon Benjamin, Gem Flynn, Pastor Mark Burns,

See them all here:







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Best to let Anna's behavior speak for itself as it usually reflects so badly on her.
Nobody challenged her terrible post except me
Most people just ignore her.


Perhaps I should ignore her, but when we see her side spread the most terrible hate against a poor young boy (Kyle R) and then she spreads this falsehood against good solid Americans it is hard to do that.


I don't think you understand, Jefferson. At all. It's the fact that evangelicals are chanting it in their churches.

No, YOU do not understand. Words that replace cuss words are nothing new. Dang it, darn it, Oh Fudge, etc.., and Lets go Brandon. Like all Liberals you are happy to kill the unborn and embrace sodomy but you get ruffled because your senile pedophile president is insulted. The best thing for you to do is repent to God of your sins, and then be quiet.
 
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Major Scandals, Divisions Among Trump-Supporting Evangelicals Are Taking a Toll


The Wheels are Coming Off

The incongruity between some Evangelical Christians and their leaders, and Trump's lifestyle, which reflects a total lack of the kind of values and morals Evangelicals believe are the product of, and evidence of a Christian lifestyle, has always been difficult to explain. I've never bought the claim some Evangelicals make, that they aren't voting for a "pastor-in-chief", to excuse or explain their Trump support, mainly because it is not consistent with multiple passages found in the Bible, which Evangelicals claim is their sole authority over their theology and doctrine. Nor do I accept the reasoning that Trump, in spite of his own clear testimony to the contrary, at some point "converted." In most Evangelical doctrine, a conversion experience involves conviction and repentance, leading to spiritual transformation and conversion. Trump denies having to "repent" or ask forgiveness, claiming he has not done anything to require it.

In a previous post, entitled Behind the Scenes, Among Trump Supporting Evangelicals, It's a Mess, similarities between the behavior of the leadership and Trump's behavior pattern were noted. In the Southern Baptist Convention, not all of the issues are directly tied to Trump support, though the pressure put on Dr. Russell Moore, because he was an outspoken "Never Trumper," amounted to what he called "psychological terror." He was the object of two SBC executive committee "investigations" aimed at ousting him from the directorship of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission.

Moore, in a letter written prior to his resignation from the ERLC and his leaving the Southern Baptist Convention, said, "I have been attacked with the most vicious guerilla tactics on such matters, and have been told to keep quiet about it by others." What he is referencing is the ERLC's activity in response to a massive sexual abuse scandal among Southern Baptist pastors, church staff and denominational employees reported in an expose released by The Houston Chronicle in 20I9. But his "never Trumper" stance, based on Christian convictions supported by Biblical doctrine, also caused a round of what he calls "intimidation tactics" including death threats to him and his family. Russell Moore Resignation from the SBC ERLC, Washington Post Religion News Service Story on Moore's Resignation

"Vicious guerilla tactics" and "psychological terror"? Is this a Christian denomination of which we are speaking? And though it was the sexual abuse scandal to which Moore directed most of the activity of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission over the past three years, the attacks on his leadership started when he expressed his convictions about Trump's candidacy, which are completely consistent with a conservative Biblical interpretation of the Bible.

. . . .
 
Lies and more lies and damnable lies



This thread is such a disgusting lie and based on such a disgusting lie that it really should be lock. One might as well make a thread saying that Elvis is a Klansman and visited Trump yesterday. That would be just as true as this thread, It is beyond absurd.

What this propagandist calls "extremists" was address in my thread which I shall quote now:

I saw a disgusting thread in here the other day, I know it had to be a total lie, I investigated, and as usual I was correct

Reawaken America Tour is a collection of doctors, politicians, Trump voters, in other words good Americans, to have a sort of fun, informative event with speaks and information. Its like a big rally, but more like a speakers event.

E5uMMsUWEAYxeRH


Mike Flynn supported the families of those killed in Afghanistan at a massive telethon in Colorado as part of the Reawaken America Tour, where the money raised will be turned into scholarships and other funds for the families of those who lost their lives.

Mike Lindell is a speaker. Other speakers include: Mellissa Tate, Pastor Leon Benjamin, Gem Flynn, Pastor Mark Burns,

See them all here:







FD3tf6cXwAUjEQN
 

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I'll bet now they're worried about their tax-exempt status.

And Flynn the traitor said the quiet part out loud:

"If we are going to have one nation under God, which we must, we have to have one religion." One nation under God and one religion under God, right?"

That's a direct attack on the first amendment.

Not that MAGA will mind though, since their desired end result of deconstructing our constitutional republic is a theological autocracy.
Not to mention freedoms and civil liberties.
 

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From David French:

David Austin French (born January 24, 1969) is an American political commentator, theologically conservative traditional Christian, and former attorney who has argued high profile religious liberty cases. A fellow at the National Review Institute and a staff writer for National Review from 2015 to 2019, French currently serves as senior editor of The Dispatch.

The Seeds of Political Violence Are Being Sown in Church

The new insurrection is being organized, in a sanctuary near you.


On Thursday night in Castle Rock, Colorado, a group called “FEC United” (FEC stands for faith, education, and commerce) held a “town hall” meeting that featured a potpourri of GOP candidates and election conspiracy theorists. Most notably, the event included John Eastman, the Claremont scholar who authored the notorious legal memos that purported to justify the decertification and reversal of the 2020 election results.​
During the meeting, a man named Shawn Smith accused Colorado secretary of state Jena Griswold of election misconduct. “You know, if you're involved in election fraud, then you deserve to hang,” he said. “Sometimes the old ways are the best ways.”​
“I was accused of endorsing violence,” he went on. “I’m not endorsing violence, I’m saying once you put your hand on a hot stove, you get burned.” As soon as he said, “you deserve to hang,” an audience member shouted “Yeah!” and applause filled the room. You can watch the moment here.​
The moment, almost entirely ignored by the national media, is worth noting on its own terms, but perhaps the most ominous aspect of the evening was its location—a church called The Rock.​
If you think it’s remotely unusual that a truly extremist event (which included more than one person who’d called for hanging his political opponents) was held at a church, then you’re not familiar with far-right road shows that are stoking extremism in church after church at event after event.
Last week, the New York Times’s Robert Draper wrote a must-read profile of former President Donald Trump’s one-time national security adviser Michael Flynn. Before January 6, Flynn advocated military intervention, including martial law, to assist in overturning the election results.
During the Biden administration, he’s taken his show on the road, launching a “ReAwaken America” tour that features conferences that combine “elements of a tent revival, a trade fair and a sci-fi convention.” It is striking to see Flynn’s use of Christian channels and venues to spread his apocalyptic message of election corruption and national doom.
Draper caught up with the tour at Dream City Church in Phoenix, Arizona, where 3,500 people had shown up to see Flynn and his collection of speakers. Flynn, Draper says, is “the single greatest draw besides Trump himself” in the “parallel universe” of the Make America Great Again movement.​
Intrigued by the Dream City Church reference in Draper’s article, I went to the ReAwaken America tour page to see where Flynn was headed next. The first thing you notice is that the tour is sponsored by Charisma News, a charismatic Christian outlet. The next thing you should notice is the list of upcoming venues: Trinity Gospel Temple in Ohio, Awaken Church in California, The River Church in Oregon, and Burnsview Baptist Church in South Carolina.​
It is always difficult to know when and how to cover extremism. Does highlighting a fringe provide an artificial sense of their danger and strength, in much the same way that “nutpicking” works in online spaces to exaggerate the extremism of your opponents? Or does ignoring a fringe allow it to flourish outside the spotlight and shock the nation when it finally emerges?​
When it comes to Christian nationalism, the bar for concern has been passed by any conceivable measure. When a movement is strong enough to storm the Capitol, then it is worth continued monitoring and continued concern. Moreover, it’s important to understand why it continues to flourish, and why it is so difficult to understand, much less combat.
First, MAGA Christian nationalism is emotional and spiritual, not intellectual or ideological. While a number of scholars have done yeoman’s work in identifying the basic tenets of Christian nationalism, I’m still partial to Baylor University historian Thomas Kidd’s formulation of the ideology as “more a visceral reaction than a rationally chosen stance.” Kidd provides a telling example:​
I recently saw a yard sign that read “Make Faith Great Again: Trump 2020.” I wondered, How can re-electing Donald Trump make “faith” great again? What faith? When did it stop being great? No coherent answers would be forthcoming to such questions, but that’s the point. The sign speaks to a person’s ethnic, religious, and cultural identity in ways easier to notice than to explain.
But a MAGA Christian nationalist will read that sign and know exactly what it means–when Trump wins, America wins, and the church wins. The man, the nation, and the church are the movement.



More at the link.
 

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More from David French:

"A Christian political movement that’s so focused on the threat from the left can often unwittingly facilitate the rise of radicals, through sins of both commission and omission.

The sin of commission is constant threat-inflation. By focusing relentlessly on “wokeism” or the worst of the left, Christian media exacerbates the sense that Evangelicals are under siege and hanging on to their place in American society by their fingertips. As a leader in a well-known Christian activist group told me this week, threat-inflation leads to “cornered-animal syndrome,” rendering Christians vulnerable to the siren call of the extremists. Join us. We’re the last hope for the nation and the church..."
 
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John Hagee’s Cornerstone Church in San Antonio has issued an apology for hosting an extremist rally.The Reawaken America Tour appeared in San Antonio at the church, which was roundly criticized by many religious leaders after video showed the crowd chanting “Let’s Go Brandon” a euphemism for an insult against President Joe Biden. After an attempt to distance themselves from the event, another video surfaced of Pastor Matt Hagee, John Hagee’s son, welcoming the crowd and congratulating them for attending.

The church offered a later statement in which the younger Hagee apologized for his involvement, and asked for forgiveness. The statement said the group was not properly vetted, and stated that, “In the future, Cornerstone Church would ensure that organizations using their facility are an appropriate reflection of their mission and vision.”

The conference took place on Nov. 11-13, and speakers included former National Security Advisor Mike Flynn, Trump political consultant Roger Stone and My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell. All three are well-known conspiracy theorists.

They railed against COVID-19 vaccine mandates and election fraud, and Flynn was caught on video calling for “one religion” in the United States.

Critics, including religious leaders, have condemned organizers for holding the political event in a religious setting.

Oklahoma Pastor Jeremy Coleman shared his thoughts on TikTok:

“Look, if you're going to be a white nationalist cult rally, just say that if you're going to be a bigoted political rally, just say that, but don't call yourself a church. Churches are meant to be places of unconditional love for your neighbor. That means your Republican neighbor, your Democrat neighbor, your gay neighbor, your straight neighbor, your Black neighbor, your white neighbor, your American neighbor, your immigrant neighbor,” Coleman said.

“It's meant to be a place where everybody can come together in unity and love and worship Jesus. So you can miss me with that bull [redacted] because that's a white nationalist cult rally — who needs to start paying taxes.”
Some Christians are more supportive of leftist cults than right-wing cults, if you catch my drift.
 

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I'll bet now they're worried about their tax-exempt status.

And Flynn the traitor said the quiet part out loud:

"If we are going to have one nation under God, which we must, we have to have one religion." One nation under God and one religion under God, right?"

That's a direct attack on the first amendment.

Not that MAGA will mind though, since their desired end result of deconstructing our constitutional republic is a theological autocracy.
Nothing can be more destructive to the 1st amendment than the government-sponsored and mandated atheistic religion of Secular Humanism.
 
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