Dear NASA, Thanks For Taking Our Call
This is the show from Friday, July 20th, 2018
SUMMARY:
* Water is the Enemy of the Origin of Life: During a prestigious science conference this week in Germany, a Science editor selected a question submitted by Real Science Radio and put it to a NASA astrobiologist regarding water being an enemy, and not an asset, to the supposed origin of life from inanimate matter. So while the left was distracted over its obsession with Trump, here at RSR we quietly snuck up to their perimeter and lobbed in a truth bomb. Bob Enyart and Fred Williams air the audio of news editor Tim Appenzeller asking the question, and then they listen to the response from senior “astrobiologist” Dr. Mary Voytek. Evolutionists often present their problems as though they were evidence for their theory (as for example with sexual reproduction, and sometimes, like with the famed anti-creationist Eugenie Scott, even forget what the word "problem" means).
* DARMSTADT, Germany (RSR) July 17, 2018: Real Science Radio asked: “To Dr. Voytek, rather than an asset, isn’t water the enemy of prebiotic molecules? It’s the universal solvent and outside of a living organism, water dissolves life’s building blocks life like amino acids, sugars like RNA and DNA, various kinds of carbohydrates, and other polymers. Shouldn’t this chemical challenge be more openly acknowledged in astrobiology?” This RSR challenge, one of many, was posed this week over in Germany as a question to a NASA astrobiologist by the news editor of Science. During this major AAAS event, the moderator Tim Appenzeller asked Dr. Mary Voytek about the never publicly acknowledged problem that water presents in trying to get life's compounds to arise naturally.
* Dear NASA, Water is the Enemy of Abiogenesis: Beware the ubiquitous bait-and-switch. Wherever water is found, NASA claims that would be a good place to search for evidence that life may have originated there. Yes, water is needed to maintain life. But as the universal solvent, outside of the controlled environment of a living organism, water relentlessly dissolves the chemical building blocks of life including:
- amino acids (which form proteins)
- sugars (including in the following)
- RNA (ribonucleic acid)
- DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid)
- monosaccharides
- disaccharides
- peptides (of all kinds)
- non-peptide (Ribosome) enzymes
- countless kinds of polymers
- and all kinds of carbohydrates.
The journal that this panel's moderator Tim Appenzeller works for, Science, reported that "water [is] lethal to the survival of DNA." The same goes for RNA and any fantastical RNA World, as even Stanley Miller, of 1952's Miller-Urey infamy, wrote in PNAS, "Sugars are known to be unstable in strong acid or base [and further] ribose [of RNA fame] and other sugars have surprisingly short half-lives for decomposition at neutral pH, making it very unlikely that sugars were available as prebiotic reagents." Thus monosaccharides and disaccharides, for example, dissolve rapidly. Scientific examination has always readily seen this evident pattern. In 1955, the first known investigation into original biological material remaining in fossils, conducted by the Carnegie Institute, stated, "Ultimately in the presence of water these peptide bonds are broken", peptides being two or more amino acids linked in a chain. As foundational compounds of all living organisms, peptides are significant throughout every cell and are vital in most biological processes. Peptides comprise all proteins, most enzymes, various hormones (including unicellular ones), they transport nutrients and are cellular building blocks. And water dissolves them. Enzymes perform and vastly speed up the chemical reactions necessary for life yet water destroys both peptide and non-peptide Ribosome enzymes (which are not made from amino acids but from RNA). Thus NASA, the BBC, ESA, Nova, and science educators like Bill Nye and Neil deGrasse Tyson, ubiquitously use a bait-and-switch to manipulate their audiences. Whereas molecules like DNA and RNA easily dissolve in water (including by deamination and depurination), materialists exploit their audiences' gullibility and ignorance, along with water's known role in sustaining life, to pretend that it is an unquestioned asset for abiogenesis, to form life from the very chemical compounds that it would disassemble. And of course, because life is information-based, even more so than it is carbon-based, abiogenesis is impossible anyway. So, while it helps to maintain existing life, NASA, water is the enemy of "prebiotic" molecules.
* Water is Part of our Rebuttal to the Big Bang Theory: Our argument that water is not a catalyst but a barrier to abiogenesis appears also at rsr.org/bb#abiogenesis. Atop that rsr.org/bb page we embed and sell DVDs and Blu-rays of our full-length video against the big bang theory...
* All of Which, NASA, Brings Us To This: Life is the only thing in the cosmos aware of the cosmos' existence. And because life is a part of the cosmos, any proposed history including the "standard model" of big bang cosmology that cannot account for the origin of life is a failed model. Mainstream astronomy, origin-of-life, and cosmology institutions point to the presence of water, ironically, as a primary factor in the origin of life. However, as with hundreds of other materialist chicken and egg problems, water is essential for life but would prevent the origin of life. So, even if abiogenesis were possible, water would be one of its greatest barriers. What this peculiar situation indicates is that the standard model provides no help in explaining our origins. Thus, as Bob Enyart's presentation in Malibu at Pepperdine University demonstrations, there are no secular theories of origins. God exists. They don't.
* DOA List of Abiogenesis Killers: Various resources necessary to maintain life are major barriers for the natural origin of life. The materialistic origin of life would be prevented by not only water, but sunlight, symbolism (i.e., a code), time, oxygen, and _____. (Please send suggestions for this list to Bob@rsr.org.) The dead-on-arrival list of abiogenesis killers that, nonetheless, are vital for maintaining life, include...
- Water: The universal solvent enemy of prebiotic molecules.
- Sunlight: Biological molecules lying on a beach will be destroyed within hours of exposure to incoming solar rays which, like oxygen, will burn them up and which, like water, will disassemble them.
- Symbolic Logic: Then there’s symbolic logic. (See our Dawkins 3-to-1 Evolution Challenge below.) Functional biological information would have to arise, be encoded, stored, later retrieved, then decoded, and implemented, in order to build the next generation organism (or even the next protein in the same organism). This is like encoding information onto a DVD, then decoding and using that information. But to encode and decode requires symbolism. Therefore, a materialistic origin of life would need to implement symbolic logic. The problem is though, and this is also a fatal problem for OOL (origin of life) research. For the laws of physics and chemistry have no symbolic logic functions. So there is just no way to encode or decode any information, or even to think about the problem. So symbolism is yet another non-starter for abiogenesis, even for the simplest conceivable reproducing biological organism, let alone for the sophisticated genetic information all around us.
- Oxygen: of course if you oxidize biological molecules they will be destroyed. So OOL (origin of life) research suggests that life evolved underwater (to get it away from oxygen, but then the prebiotic molecles would be dissolved), or they appeal to a lack of oxygen in the atmosphere and begin their story with anaerobic bacteria. Then, after hundreds of millions of years, photosynthesis happens and oxygenates the atmosphere. (That process of course is wildly complicated and as recently discovered, uses quantum mechanics, and yet if materialism were true, with no intelligence allowed and no direction or guidance, like everything else in the first life photsynthesis would have had to arise only by blind mistakes, along with the blind mistakes that simultaneously encoded the instructions for building such a photosynthetic system into the next generation, even though the physical laws have no symbolic logic functions.)
- Time: Here's an exercise for the reader. How might time, which is a resource that living organisms utilize, be a barrier for the naturalistic origin of life?
This is the show from Friday, July 20th, 2018
SUMMARY:
* Water is the Enemy of the Origin of Life: During a prestigious science conference this week in Germany, a Science editor selected a question submitted by Real Science Radio and put it to a NASA astrobiologist regarding water being an enemy, and not an asset, to the supposed origin of life from inanimate matter. So while the left was distracted over its obsession with Trump, here at RSR we quietly snuck up to their perimeter and lobbed in a truth bomb. Bob Enyart and Fred Williams air the audio of news editor Tim Appenzeller asking the question, and then they listen to the response from senior “astrobiologist” Dr. Mary Voytek. Evolutionists often present their problems as though they were evidence for their theory (as for example with sexual reproduction, and sometimes, like with the famed anti-creationist Eugenie Scott, even forget what the word "problem" means).
* DARMSTADT, Germany (RSR) July 17, 2018: Real Science Radio asked: “To Dr. Voytek, rather than an asset, isn’t water the enemy of prebiotic molecules? It’s the universal solvent and outside of a living organism, water dissolves life’s building blocks life like amino acids, sugars like RNA and DNA, various kinds of carbohydrates, and other polymers. Shouldn’t this chemical challenge be more openly acknowledged in astrobiology?” This RSR challenge, one of many, was posed this week over in Germany as a question to a NASA astrobiologist by the news editor of Science. During this major AAAS event, the moderator Tim Appenzeller asked Dr. Mary Voytek about the never publicly acknowledged problem that water presents in trying to get life's compounds to arise naturally.
* Dear NASA, Water is the Enemy of Abiogenesis: Beware the ubiquitous bait-and-switch. Wherever water is found, NASA claims that would be a good place to search for evidence that life may have originated there. Yes, water is needed to maintain life. But as the universal solvent, outside of the controlled environment of a living organism, water relentlessly dissolves the chemical building blocks of life including:
- amino acids (which form proteins)
- sugars (including in the following)
- RNA (ribonucleic acid)
- DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid)
- monosaccharides
- disaccharides
- peptides (of all kinds)
- non-peptide (Ribosome) enzymes
- countless kinds of polymers
- and all kinds of carbohydrates.
The journal that this panel's moderator Tim Appenzeller works for, Science, reported that "water [is] lethal to the survival of DNA." The same goes for RNA and any fantastical RNA World, as even Stanley Miller, of 1952's Miller-Urey infamy, wrote in PNAS, "Sugars are known to be unstable in strong acid or base [and further] ribose [of RNA fame] and other sugars have surprisingly short half-lives for decomposition at neutral pH, making it very unlikely that sugars were available as prebiotic reagents." Thus monosaccharides and disaccharides, for example, dissolve rapidly. Scientific examination has always readily seen this evident pattern. In 1955, the first known investigation into original biological material remaining in fossils, conducted by the Carnegie Institute, stated, "Ultimately in the presence of water these peptide bonds are broken", peptides being two or more amino acids linked in a chain. As foundational compounds of all living organisms, peptides are significant throughout every cell and are vital in most biological processes. Peptides comprise all proteins, most enzymes, various hormones (including unicellular ones), they transport nutrients and are cellular building blocks. And water dissolves them. Enzymes perform and vastly speed up the chemical reactions necessary for life yet water destroys both peptide and non-peptide Ribosome enzymes (which are not made from amino acids but from RNA). Thus NASA, the BBC, ESA, Nova, and science educators like Bill Nye and Neil deGrasse Tyson, ubiquitously use a bait-and-switch to manipulate their audiences. Whereas molecules like DNA and RNA easily dissolve in water (including by deamination and depurination), materialists exploit their audiences' gullibility and ignorance, along with water's known role in sustaining life, to pretend that it is an unquestioned asset for abiogenesis, to form life from the very chemical compounds that it would disassemble. And of course, because life is information-based, even more so than it is carbon-based, abiogenesis is impossible anyway. So, while it helps to maintain existing life, NASA, water is the enemy of "prebiotic" molecules.
* Water is Part of our Rebuttal to the Big Bang Theory: Our argument that water is not a catalyst but a barrier to abiogenesis appears also at rsr.org/bb#abiogenesis. Atop that rsr.org/bb page we embed and sell DVDs and Blu-rays of our full-length video against the big bang theory...
* All of Which, NASA, Brings Us To This: Life is the only thing in the cosmos aware of the cosmos' existence. And because life is a part of the cosmos, any proposed history including the "standard model" of big bang cosmology that cannot account for the origin of life is a failed model. Mainstream astronomy, origin-of-life, and cosmology institutions point to the presence of water, ironically, as a primary factor in the origin of life. However, as with hundreds of other materialist chicken and egg problems, water is essential for life but would prevent the origin of life. So, even if abiogenesis were possible, water would be one of its greatest barriers. What this peculiar situation indicates is that the standard model provides no help in explaining our origins. Thus, as Bob Enyart's presentation in Malibu at Pepperdine University demonstrations, there are no secular theories of origins. God exists. They don't.
* DOA List of Abiogenesis Killers: Various resources necessary to maintain life are major barriers for the natural origin of life. The materialistic origin of life would be prevented by not only water, but sunlight, symbolism (i.e., a code), time, oxygen, and _____. (Please send suggestions for this list to Bob@rsr.org.) The dead-on-arrival list of abiogenesis killers that, nonetheless, are vital for maintaining life, include...
- Water: The universal solvent enemy of prebiotic molecules.
- Sunlight: Biological molecules lying on a beach will be destroyed within hours of exposure to incoming solar rays which, like oxygen, will burn them up and which, like water, will disassemble them.
- Symbolic Logic: Then there’s symbolic logic. (See our Dawkins 3-to-1 Evolution Challenge below.) Functional biological information would have to arise, be encoded, stored, later retrieved, then decoded, and implemented, in order to build the next generation organism (or even the next protein in the same organism). This is like encoding information onto a DVD, then decoding and using that information. But to encode and decode requires symbolism. Therefore, a materialistic origin of life would need to implement symbolic logic. The problem is though, and this is also a fatal problem for OOL (origin of life) research. For the laws of physics and chemistry have no symbolic logic functions. So there is just no way to encode or decode any information, or even to think about the problem. So symbolism is yet another non-starter for abiogenesis, even for the simplest conceivable reproducing biological organism, let alone for the sophisticated genetic information all around us.
- Oxygen: of course if you oxidize biological molecules they will be destroyed. So OOL (origin of life) research suggests that life evolved underwater (to get it away from oxygen, but then the prebiotic molecles would be dissolved), or they appeal to a lack of oxygen in the atmosphere and begin their story with anaerobic bacteria. Then, after hundreds of millions of years, photosynthesis happens and oxygenates the atmosphere. (That process of course is wildly complicated and as recently discovered, uses quantum mechanics, and yet if materialism were true, with no intelligence allowed and no direction or guidance, like everything else in the first life photsynthesis would have had to arise only by blind mistakes, along with the blind mistakes that simultaneously encoded the instructions for building such a photosynthetic system into the next generation, even though the physical laws have no symbolic logic functions.)
- Time: Here's an exercise for the reader. How might time, which is a resource that living organisms utilize, be a barrier for the naturalistic origin of life?